OK, when you say the zoom button, are you referring to the one up by the
title bar and the close button, etc?
Right now, the mail window is taking up the entire screen without having to
be in full screen view. I know this, as I have a little bit of vision,
though definitely not enough actually to physically read the screen. If I
hit the zoom button it scales down to about maybe half the screen. Either
way though, it's not having any baring.
Chris.
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From: "Lisette Wesseling" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: utterly in barest: question about mail Olmac OS X 10.8 Mountain
lion
Have you tried pressing the zoom button?
On 1/08/2012, at 2:12 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
as I stated in my initial message, yes. I have tried this as well. I have
tried VO\, right arrow, VO right arrow, the oh space I have literally
tried everything. Nothing seems to be doing the trick. Even closing and
reopening mail, restarting voiceover, and even going as far as to restart
my entire MacBook nothing is working.
thanks, Chris.
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On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
I, too, use ML in standard view. I interact with the table, but I close
mail so rarely that this is not a hastle. You mentioned disclosure
triangles. Have you tried vo-backslash yet? It seems unnecessary since
the right arrow should work, but it may help in the meantime.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> wrote:
yes, I most certainly have. Remember, we are not talking lion, nor snow
leopard here. We are speaking specifically 10.8 Mountain lion. also,
remember, I first am not interacting with the message list table. I
simply VO right arrow over to it, and then use my up and down arrow keys
to move through the list of messages. I do not first interact. I do not
look at each column of the message list table individually like some
people do. I did try interacting however, just to see if it would work.
It did not. there has got to be someway to expand that disclosure
triangle, but I just cannot figure it out. restarting voiceover, did no
good, neither did restarting mail. Furthermore, restarting my entire Mac
did absolutely no good. I am quite sure that there should be a fairly
easy solution to this problem, I just am drawing a mental blank on what
that solution would be. Normally, I am extremely good with this type of
stuff, however I must say, this time, I am completely baffled.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
I use right arrow just fine. I know this is basic, but have you tried a
restart? Maybe start with closing and re-opening mail?
On Jul 31, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]>
wrote:
okay. Now, I feel incredibly humiliated, not to mention utterly
embarrassed!
the very email thread that may have answered this question, I deleted
thinking was completely irrelevant to me at the current time. I am
currently using the Standard view of mail. I am 100% certain that I am
not set to the classic view. I know exactly how to switch it however
if I need to. I furthermore have disabled the option to Group related
messages. usually, I do not interact with the message list table. I
simply VO right Aero over to it, and then just use my up and down
arrow keys to move through the list of messages. If I want to read an
email, I didn't press VO J to jump to the message body and begin
reading. excuse me. Siri totally messed that last sentence up. I was
trying to say I then press VO J to jump to the body of the message and
begin reading. got a love dictating on an iPhone! LOL! frankly, I'm
lazy, and do not feel like going back and editing. Sorry. Anyway… I
have conversation thread view enabled. whenever I see a thread that
has multiple conversations with in it, say, two conversations, or
more, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to expand the
conversations. I have tried hitting just the right arrow key, VO right
Aravind, pressing VO\, and more, to absolutely no avail. I haven't
even gone so far as to press VO space on the email thinking that that
would expand, however that also did absolutely no good. what is the
best method for doing this. I love my conversation thread view! I used
it on a very regular basis and lion. I never thought that I would see
the day I would like using mail that way, but I actually swear by it!
if there is a conversation thread that I do not wish to read, I can
simply hit the delete key on the topmost node of the thread, and just
like that: Bam! The whole thread is now gone. absolutely brilliant! As
of now, I have disabled thread view until I can get a more concrete
answer on the best method for doing this. I hope that this feature has
not been broken in Mountain lion from a voiceover perspective. That
would royally suck, if so.
again I am quite positive that this question has already been
answered/addressed, however I was a stupid idiot and deleted the
thread without first thinking that later it might be relevant to me. I
feel like a total fool.
anyway, thank you for your help. I promise I will try to be more
careful with my email in the future going forward.
Chris.
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