Oh. 

You’re trying to send mail from an Amazon compute server sitting in the middle 
of a range of IPs that have the generic aws rDNS.You’re being blocked because 
you’re sending from a place many, many people don’t want mail from. 

You need to get your mailserver hosted somewhere that is not a cloud provider. 
Get a VPS or better. 

laura 

> On 4 Sep 2020, at 14:17, L. Mark Stone <mark.st...@missioncriticalemail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sure thing Laura; the "new" IP is 3.209.146.84.  More than 70 domains will 
> use this IP for outbound.
> 
> Any insights appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
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> 
> From: "mailop" <mailop@mailop.org>
> To: "mailop" <mailop@mailop.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 3:34:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [mailop] MTA Server IP "Warm Up" Reputation Recommended Best 
> Practices
> 
> 
> 
> On 3 Sep 2020, at 20:02, L. Mark Stone via mailop <mailop@mailop.org 
> <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Laura and Chris for your replies, and sorry if I wasn't as precise in 
> my language as perhaps I should have been. I've been in the email business 
> since 2005 and have been impressed with the general high experience level of 
> the posters on this list. I didn't think I needed to be as specific as I 
> think you wanted me to be -- especially because I was asking for guidance 
> regarding an optimal MTA IP "warm up" process, and just using my case as an 
> example of what happens when that process (if one exists) is not apparently 
> followed.
> 
> 1) So to be clear, none of my nor my customers' domains are on blocklists 
> presently (nor were they at the time ~2 months ago), nor were/are any of my 
> MTA's IPs on any public block lists. 
> 
> 2) The IP address of the new MTA we attempted to put into limited production 
> was placed on the internal block lists of Microsoft, Google and Mimecast 
> (which I resell) the same weekend we put that new MTA into limited 
> production. Test emails we had sent prior to the production weekend to those 
> and other service providers all sailed through OK. The outbound email we fed 
> through the new MTA that weekend was a simply portion of the normal outbound 
> email we process through our existing MTAs.  All of the email processed 
> through our existing MTAs that weekend was delivered successfully.
> 
> 3) Microsoft's response was that this IP was not eligible for remediation.  I 
> presumed, since none of the bounce messages in the logs indicated anything 
> regarding email contents, nor anything related to the sending domains, that 
> this was due to the IP being "new".
> 
> Having helped dozens, if not hundreds, of companies successfully warm up IP 
> addresses there is nothing that makes Microsoft outright block mail from new 
> IPs just for being new. 
> 
> It’s your choice if you don’t want to share IPs, examples, domains or even 
> the bounce messages. But it makes it impossible to actually help you.
> 
> Microsoft doesn’t just block new IP addresses for being new.
> 
> laura
> 
> 
> So that was why I titled this thread "MTA Server IP "Warm Up" Reputation 
> Recommended Best Practices".
> 
> We have other IPs we can use if needed, so again, I am less concerned about 
> improving this IP's reputation than I am with not repeating this outcome.
> 
> No one has yet indicated a better process for warming up an IP than 
> essentially "send some email" -- that's not something we can do with our 
> customers' production email flows.  So if we need first to set up a separate 
> domain or two, and open a raft of Yahoo, Gmail and Outlook.com 
> <http://outlook.com/> accounts as destinations to create a reputation for an 
> IP where we can afford to have these emails blocked, and; then deal with any 
> bounce messages etc., OK.  That process seems... sub-optimal at best.
> 
> If anyone has a better process for warming up sending MTA IPs, I would be 
> grateful.
> 
> With best regards to all, 
> Mark 
> ___________________________________________ 
> L. Mark Stone, Founder 
> Mission Critical Email LLC 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mailop" <mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
> To: "mailop" <mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 1:31:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [mailop] MTA Server IP "Warm Up" Reputation Recommended Best 
> Practices
> 
> On 2020-09-03 10:41, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote:
> 
> What “other block lists” are you on? Knowing that may help identify what 
> you did wrong. It’s unusual for IPs to be blocked outright after 3 days 
> of mail. What were you sending and to whom were you sending it? Who owns 
> the IP? Where is it routed from? How did you acquire the IP address? Is 
> it being routed?
> 
> ....
> 
> This is one of those questions that’s very difficult to actually answer 
> in the hypothetical.
> 
> Precisely.  We've seen this scenario many times before, new sending IP, 
> and seems to get listed right away even tho the volumes are kept low at 
> first.  By not paying attention/investigating other listings, you might 
> not notice the fact that you made a glaring configuration error that 
> spells "infected!!!!!" to not just DNSBLs, but generalized inbox 
> filtering as well.  But the person thinks it's to do with "new IP", 
> rather than "new IP with obvious problems".
> 
> We see it all the time, and it's impossible to answer in the hypothetical.
> 
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