On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 10:34 PM, Anthony Teso wrote:

> 
> His second post also drifts into the Moscow Trials line that Trotskyists
> plotted to overthrow the Soviet government, which is a separate fight.

You meant to say the Soviet state, Tony.  The Moscow Trials line was that 
Trotsky and the other Old Bolsheviks were calling for the overthrow of the 
Soviet state and the restoration of capitalism. Trotsky was instead calling for 
the overthrow of the Soviet government headed by Stalin, ie. for a political 
revolution by the Soviet workers and peasants against the governing Stalinist 
faction rather than a counter-revolution to destroy the Soviet Union.

You and others on the list already know all this, and the distinction between 
the actual program of the Left and Right Opposition and what they were falsely 
accused of conspiring towards in league with the fascists is also widely 
understood and accepted on the Marxist left and well beyond it today.

Consequently, I don't think another "separate fight" on this question as you 
suggest is required. The outlandish conspiracy theory of Grover Furr and his 
acolyte has been exhaustively discussed and rejected on the list. I can 
understand why the moderators have discouraged further discussion but, rather 
than urging that these calumnies be ignored, this is one of those rare 
occasions when I would welcome Louis' (sometimes overzealous) policing of the 
list. I've come around to the view expressed by others that further posts by 
this lone individual on the subject should be intercepted by the moderators and 
returned to sender.


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