On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 02:44 PM, Michael Meeropol wrote:

> 
> ust a short response re "HO HO HO CHI MINH" chant --- The NLF and Viet
> Minh were communist nationalist organizations dedicated to first national
> liberation and then building socialism.  HAMAS is a fundamentalist
> religious anti-democratic organization which was built up with Israeli
> help (money) so as to counter the secular nationalist wing of the
> Palestinian movement --- one could without fear of too much contradiction
> consider HAMAS virtually fascist in its governing style and lack of
> respect for human life -- including the human lives of the people they
> were supposedly "representing".

Michael, we can take your comparison of the actual nature of the Viet Minh 
versus Hamas as correct, but that doesn't change the point that mass protests 
will inevitably include sectarian chants by some. Gandall seized on them in 
order to disparage a two-state solution, even though he doth protest that he 
has 50-year credentials of correctness.
> 
> 
> Trotsky may have opposed Stalinism but his followers did not support the
> Nazi invasion of the SOviet Union no matter how "degenerated" it was as a
> "workers' state."
> 

As noted on this board in the past, some Trotsky---s wished for a Nazi victory 
over Britain. As for a victory over the Soviet Union, I will leave aside here 
the fact, often denied on this board, that they plotted to overthrow the Soviet 
government.


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