I often wonder if todays speccies knew what they missed out on.  I was good
friends with the late Gregg Hansford and when he drove the RX7 for Ian
Boettcher in rallies I met Geoff Portman and Ross Runnalls.  I was about 13
then and Portman took me for a blast in the legendandry bluebird that he
used in the video he made.  Thought I was gonna die but best fun I ever had.

Imagine the size of the fields today of we could still run these cars, and
results were based on amount of talent not amount of $$$.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Old Rally Days


> Dont laugh too loudly but Chris Wall and I competed in a 4 day Readyplan
> Rally in about 1980 and Brocky - Yes THE Peter Perfect - drove a Gemini -
> fitted with a twin weber fed Holden Starfire 4! Pushrods and all. Not too
> slow either.
>
> I think Brocky ran third in the event which started in Melbourne then
around
> Mildura, Broken Hill  to Echuca. It was run by Rally legend, Ross "Maps"
> Runnells.  Ross was Geoff Portman's navigator in the legendary "Grunter"
> (IFK 250) and other Nissan weapons that came later, for those too young to
> know.
>
> Our car finished 5th outright after 4 long days and nights in a pretty
> "stock" 1600 rally car, and shared the  teams prize for getting three cars
> home, 2 Dattos and a Celica.
>
> The other Datto, Mick Ellis's '72 Marathon car, only just made the finish
> after Mick hit a tree head on at about 150K's. The navigator had called a
> "flick right and left" turn through a fence line they were travelling
along.
> Mick was surprised when they  arrived on the other side of the fence to be
> facing a wall of big trees - at 200k's - instead of the track, which
> actually kept turning right.  The service crew stretched out the inner
guard
> with a gas axe, at 2 am in the bush, in 3 hours. They replaced the smashed
> RHF leg/wheel/disc and got Mick back in the event.
>
> Mick had already replaced both left doors the second day, after wiping
them
> off on a tree in the Sunset Desert the night before. He also rolled it
> during the next day when arriving at a 90 degree corner a tad quickly, he
> drifted past the turn left  and fell over a log.
>
> Halcyon days!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Kroehn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 22:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Help Z18
>
>
> > Totally agree about the killing of the Group G class. It's effectively
> given
> > the Holden(cough) Gemini some sort of status. Since when was a GEMINI a
> good
> > car for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Daniel Kroehn
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry & Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: Help Z18
> >
> >
> > > Sacrilege. The "G" word has been written on this list again ):-
> > >
> > > There is an article on them Autospeed this week if you need a dose.
> > >
> > > terry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brad HALLETT
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2000 7:34 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Help Z18
> > >
> > >
> > > ah yes, and the spectators used to chant "Howie Howie!" because Howie
> > > Marsden was head of Nissan Motorsport at the time.
> > >
> > > Personally I think the killing of Group G was effectively the killing
of
> > > rallying in Australia.
> > >
> > > Now the chant in the bush is "not another f&%& standard Gemini" etc
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Errol Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:58 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Help Z18
> > >
> > >
> > > > Brad,
> > > > I think group G days were a lot more interesting than rallying under
> the
> > > > current regs. But I suppose its a bit hard to get the roads any more
> > with
> > > > tree huggers around every tree trunk!
> > > > I remember doing a single 105 Km stage in Canberra
> > > > ........................(goes into dream like trance)
> > > > ...................................ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZ ZZZ.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Feral Errol
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Brad HALLETT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Help Z18
> > > > Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 7:32
> > > >
> > > > And then you replace the glass with perspex and fit fiberglas
guards,
> > > > bonnet
> > > > and boot and OH MY GOD THE GROUP G BUG HAS BITTEN ME AGAIN
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Errol Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 5:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Help Z18
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > David,
> > > > > I have a bluebird shell down to 900 kg's just by taking out all
the
> > > > bitumen
> > > > > from the floors and firewall n gee-gaws n doo hickeys n seats n
crap
> n
> > > > > lectric bitz etc.
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Feral Errol
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From: David Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Help Z18
> > > > > Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 4:36
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the bluebirds are fairly heavy though
> > > > > so power to weight ratio won't be that great
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Geordie Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Date: Monday, 24 July 2000 8:32
> > > > > Subject: RE: Help Z18
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >My 2 bobs worth, and will make for a really FUN conversion
project.
> > > > > >Series 3 Bluebird TRX + SR20 Turbo Engine. This engine will
almost
> > bolt
> > > > > >straight into a series 3. I have a series 2 and find myself going
> to
> > > the
> > > > > >bloody wreckers every weekend ripping parts off series 3
> bluebirds...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If you build it yourself, you could make yourself a quite neat
> > looking
> > > > car
> > > > > >with 185kw in standard form & if you play around 500+HP is not
out
> of
> > > > the
> > > > > >question.  Expect to blow about $6,000 minimum to begin with on
> > engine
> > > &
> > > > > >car.... But should be easy bang for bucks.... :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Your other option is to go and buy a Hyundai XL....
> > > > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan
> Platt
> > > > > >Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 11:31 AM
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Help Z18
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi..
> > > > > >Im thinking of buying my first car .. I have been very impressed
by
> > the
> > > > > >amount of information and help i can get from all the datsun
sites
> > ...
> > > I
> > > > > am
> > > > > >not a mechanic but i would like to learn a bit. I was wondering
> what
> > > > makes
> > > > > >and/or models a anyone would suggest?
> > > > > >Another question.. i have not been able to find a site with a
full
> > > > > >explanation of all the makes and models and what specs they
have...
> > > > Would
> > > > > >anyone have a good site with this sort of information?
> > > > > >I am particularly interested in the relationship between the 510
> and
> > > > > 1600...
> > > > > >THanx very much...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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