That sounds good Bob, During the time between my first post I sourced a 200B fuel gauge I was going to try and adapt that in to my dash as that only cost $5 then i was going to get a regulator and install that but I have not got around to it yet.
So if your idea is easyer that mewy be the way to go. Regards Chris W > Hello Terry, > > Not a problem. Ill make up a bit of a test board before I go posting > anything so I can test how much current it can provide, proper voltage > ranges, etc etc so some poor bastard doesnt get screwed, but I will > probably have something together by about tuesday or wednesday. Chris > if the test board is a complete success and you dont feel like making > one up yourself im sure I could get that one to you somehow. > > Saturday, February 16, 2002, 1:11:27 PM, you wrote: > > TR> Bob, > > TR> That sounds like a good idea. The original query came from Chris W > so it's TR> his call. I thought the bits would cost a lot more than > that. I'm sure it TR> would be useful in the future so it's worth doing > the diagram. Being TR> adjustable it could be used to replace the whole > regulator even with the TR> standard gauges and senders as it's within > both ranges on either the 1600 or TR> 200B. I think i've even got a > couple of 1600 gauge sets with blown regs and TR> one's that work > properly are getting difficult to find. > > TR> regards > TR> Terry > > TR> -----Original Message----- > TR> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > TR> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob > TR> Sent: Saturday, 16 February 2002 1:04 PM > TR> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > TR> Subject: Re[4]: 200B fuel tank in 1600 fuel gauge calibration? > > > TR> Hello Terry, > > TR> I had a bit of a look arround for adjustable regulators, and I > found TR> one, the LM317T which goes for arround the $2-3 mark ($2.60 > out of a TR> 1999 jaycar catalogue). It only needs a handful of support > components TR> to make a fully adjustable 1A or so regulator, over > about 1.2 - 11v TR> off a standard 13.8v battery. If you are still > looking at this TR> problem, I will do up some quick circuit diagrams, > diagrams for how to TR> make it on veroboard (once again, pretty > cheap), etc and whack it up TR> on an FTP site, maybe if this is a > reasonably common problem then TR> other list members could use it as > well (it could also be used for TR> things like light dimmers etc). > Anyone got a site that I could put it TR> on? Or maybe if I talked to > the ozdat.com owner they wouldnt mind, it TR> would go neatly in the > tech section. > > TR> Saturday, February 16, 2002, 10:08:35 AM, you wrote: > > TR>> Bob, > > TR>> AFAIK to resistance in either of the senders is linear, but as I > see it TR>> that's not the main problem. The problem is the different > voltages being TR>> applied to the gauge regulators in the 1600 pod and > the 200B pod. You TR> see > TR>> the tank sender units go in the opposite direction to the read out > on TR> the > TR>> gauge, i.e. 0 ohms @ 5v on the 1600 sender reads Full on the 1600 > gauge, TR> and > TR>> 15 ohms on the 200B sender @ 5v reads a little over 1/2 on the > 1600 TR> gauge. I > TR>> sent off an email to a friend in the US that i've spoken to in the > past TR>> about this problem. What he did is to disconnect the fuel > gauge in the TR> 1600 > TR>> pod from the stock voltage regulator and bought a new regulator > from TR> Tandy, > TR>> wired it all up and it works. > > TR>> This is what he wrote: > TR>> Hi, > TR>> To replace the stock 510 regulator use Radio shack cat. No. > 276-1770A TR>> This is a + 5vdc Voltage Regulator 1 Amp. If you need a > + 3vdc reg then TR> look > TR>> up the cat No. and they also stock a variable +-5vdc unit that's a > lot TR> more > TR>> expensive. Disconnect the original, and remove the heat style > regulator, TR>> (the insulator board thing) drill a small hole in the > metal cover to TR> attach > TR>> the radio shack unit. Solder a wire to the "in" side of unit to > the " TR> IGN" > TR>> 12V plug. Solder in a wire to the "out" terminal of the unit to > the TR> "panel" > TR>> plug. The center terminal is to chassis ground. I didn't need to > hook up TR>> the ground because it was getting ground from somewhere > else. TR>> Try not to use to much heat to unit during soldering or you > could TR>> damage new unit. Plug it back in - works great and costs > less than TR>> $2.00. Hope this works for you:>) > > TR>> The panel plugs he's talking about are the Fuel sender (Pin 7) and > the TR> Temp > TR>> sender (Pin 4) > TR>> I'm sure the stock reg replacement if we can get it will cost a > few $ TR> more > TR>> than $2 here. > TR>> I think with a little bit of electronics skill you could make > something TR> up > TR>> yourself that's adjustable for very little cost. > > > TR>> regards > TR>> Terry > > TR>> -----Original Message----- > TR>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > TR>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob - > Uni TR>> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 2:27 PM > TR>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > TR>> Subject: Re[2]: 200B fuel tank in 1600 fuel gauge calibration? > > > TR>> Hello Terry, > > TR>> Is the resistance linear in both the senders? ie, at half tank the > TR>> resistance is halfway through the range? If so, then I should be > able TR>> to tell you how to "recalibrate" the 200B sender to provide > the same TR>> resistance scale as the 1600 sender using 2 resisters, > total cost TR>> would be about 20c from any electronics store, and you > could use the TR>> fuel tanks present sender. > > TR>> Tuesday, February 05, 2002, 1:12:55 AM, you wrote: > > TR>>> Richard, > > TR>>> I've done this on a 1600 a long time ago and I've been talking > directly TR>> to > TR>>> Chris but as I cant find the tech info on how I did this last > time due TR>> to a > TR>>> HDD blow up some time back and I lost a lot of stuff. I'll paste > where TR>> we're > TR>>> up to but I could do with some help from the list. > > TR>>> The 180B sender idea just might work with a 1600 gauge without > all the TR>>> frigging around getting a 200B sender to work accurately. > Do you know TR>> what > TR>>> voltage a 180B dash pod runs at and also what is the resistance > range TR> of > TR>> a > TR>>> 180B sender. It just may be the same as the 1600 and that leads > me to TR>> think > TR>>> that this route just may be a better solution than trying to > figure out TR>> how > TR>>> to get around the complexity of the 1600 gauge/200B sender > problem. > > TR>>> Pasted for info > >>>>> I'll have to give this some more thought - first impressions of the >>>>> problem at hand is that a 200B gauge and sender wont work in a 1600 >>>>> - the 1600 pod voltage is 5v and the sender is 0-100 ohms. A 200B >>>>> pod voltage is only 3v and the sender resistance is something like >>>>> 15-85 ohms so you see the problem. I'm not sure about the temp >>>>> gauge sender on the 200B either so you could fix the fuel sender >>>>> and frig the temp sender, there were at least 2 (VDO & Niles). >>>>> >>>>> I think using the 200B sender with a resister, probably adjustable >>>>> is the go with the stock 1600 gauge. >>>>> >>>>> I'll be back >>>>> >>>>> TR > > TR>>> regards > TR>>> Terry > > TR>>> -----Original Message----- > TR>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > TR>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard > TR> Clough > TR>>> Sent: Monday, 4 February 2002 10:23 PM > TR>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > TR>>> Subject: Re: 200B fuel tank in 1600 fuel gauge calibration? > > > TR>>> Chris, > TR>>> I cant answer your gauge problem but have you tried it? 180B > tank TR>> sender > TR>>> units work fine with a 1600 gauge. If your not keen to connect it > in TR> the > TR>>> tank, remove the sender unit from the tank and connect to the > wiring TR>> loom > TR>>> and earth. Operate the float arm and see if the gauge registers > TR>> correctly > TR>>> over the travel of the sender unit arm. Do it slowly as the > gauge is TR>>> designed to move slowly to avoid wild fluctuations. > > TR>>> Can you give us description of how you fitted the bigger 200B > tank and TR>> fuel > TR>>> filler, a few listers have been thinking of trying this for the > larger TR>>> range. > TR>>> ----- Original Message ----- > TR>>> From: "Chris Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > TR>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > TR>>> Sent: Friday, 25 January 2002 9:54 AM > TR>>> Subject: 200B fuel tank in 1600 fuel gauge calibration? > > >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> I have recently put a 200B fuel tank in my 1600 and was >>>>> woundering how > TR>>> to >>>>> calibrate the fuel guage as I was told it would read on about half >>>>> way > TR>>> when >>>>> it is full. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Chris W >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > > > TR> -- > TR> Best regards, > TR> Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > --membersozdat------------------------------------------------------- OZDAT Mailing List Please Note:- Send (un)subscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No unauthorised redistribution of this email http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/index.htm http://www.ozdat.com/ozdatonline/listindex.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
