G'day mate,
I have fitted rear coil overs to two 1600's.  One of them I used R31 semi
trailing arms and standard crossmember and cut the rear shock towers out and
made proper strut turrets ala Z or BDA Escort.

The second one I cut and shut an R31 rear xmember and reinforced the
existing shock towers and integrated them into the rear legs of the rollcage
which gave a spaceframe strength to the cage.  This conversion was a lot of
work but absolutely brilliant.  Whilst I didn't have the adjustibility of
turret top plates the bonus of tying all suspension points together with the
cage made a big difference.  

Interesting to note that both cars were crashed by the same idiot.  Anyone
can buy a fast car not everyone can drive one.

My latest project I have a complete R32 GTR rear end to fit however CAMS are
out on that one. I even toyed with fitting the HICAS but rules and regs
won't allow that.  Be interesting for a road racer.


Cheers mate
Brad

>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:membersozdat_owner@;datascribe.com.au] 
> Sent: Monday, 4 November 2002 9:51 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: Strut brace works for me!
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Indeed - ever used them? We fitted Bilsteins on a the first 180B that we
> set up for dirt - first use of a L18 with T3 Turbo which was a very new
> experience. Very quick car, competitive with XU1 Toranas which were
> killing the local scene, main problem was stopping it without chewing
> rotors every weekend. The main problem encountered with the coil overs was
> the stock rear towers just fell to bits (literally), I'd never seen
> destruction like that in a Datto before. Lennocks redesigned them a lot
> like totally, it look more like a Zed when they'd finished and they fitted
> cross braces bolted from the tower top to the opposite side floor and
> re-enforced with welded plating and the problem seemed to be solved. I
> can't say it handled better than the standard rally 1600 setup as it just
> didn't (IMHO anyway, but with the power it had it was great to drive. The
> car got sold before we sorted it out or fully developed it's potential, my
> co-owner went Sports Sedan racing when he acquired an interest in an
> Alberta and that was that.
> 
> regards
> Terry
> 
>        -----Original Message-----
>       From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:membersozdat_owner@;datascribe.com.au] 
>       Sent:   Monday, 4 November 2002 12:24 PM
>       To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject:        RE: Strut brace works for me!
> 
>       Rear strut brace is essential if you fit coil overs, but need
> aluminium fuel tank fitted to spare wheel well so it can fit straight
> bewteen shock towers
> 
>       Cheers
>       Brad
> 
>                -----Original Message-----
>               From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [<mailto:membersozdat_owner@;datascribe.com.au>] 
>               Sent:   Friday, 1 November 2002 10:56 PM
>               To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Subject:        RE: Strut brace works for me!
> 
>               Rear strut brace on a 1600? How bizarre, not necessary with
> the stock fuel tank and IMHO about as useful as ... well you know. The
> 1600/180B/710 tank in it's original position with mounting hardware is
> integral to the rear suspension design. Now Zeds, 200B, 910,  etc that's a
> whole different story as the rear towers float all over the place on them.
> Interestingly, Stanzas are built the same way as the 1600.
> 
>               Cam (hope your bar does well in the US)
>               On the subject of tower braces, have you thought of offering
> a steering box brace with your bar. On the track, you'll notice
> scrutineering will pay particular attention to the steering box and idler
> arm bushes and mounting points when they spot the brace. It seems that a
> lot of the stress is moved downwards when a brace in is place and adjusted
> correctly. Also, ppl have a tendency to over tighten them - not necessary.
> Around 15-20lbs was recommended by Nissan for the genuine bar on a 1600
> from memory in my day.
> 
>               regards
>               Terry
> 
> 
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               [<mailto:membersozdat_owner@;datascribe.com.au]On> Behalf Of
> Rob P
>               Sent: Friday, 1 November 2002 10:40 PM
>               To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Subject: Re: Strut brace works for me!
> 
> 
>               Cam,
>               Keep up the good work mate.
>               I've actually seen a home-made REAR strut brace that was
> made of rectangular
>               hollow section (RHS) and went over the top of the fuel tank
> and then down
>               each side.
>               It might be overkill and not worth the extra weight The rear
> of a 1600 is
>               probably a whole lot stiffer than the front which has to
> enclose the whole
>               engine bay as a large void.
>               I thought it might be ideal to make one that can
>               use the top of it as  rollcage mounting points.
>               Btw I think 4-point rollcages are legal for street use here
> in WA?
>               Do any listers know if this is true?
> 
>               Rob P
>               ----- Original Message -----
>               From: "Cam McKinnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>               To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>               Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 7:05 PM
>               Subject: Re: Strut brace works for me!
> 
> 
>               > Thanks for the great feedback Rob :)
>               >
>               > Everyone who has taken one has been happy so it's good to
> here it worked
>               out
>               > for you as well.
>               >
>               > I've just sent two to the US, it'd be nice to see an
> aussie strut brace
>               take
>               > off over there!
>               >
>               > Cheers,
>               >
>               > Cam
>               > CM510
>               > <www.sprite.com.au/cm510>
>               >
>               > ----- Original Message -----
>               > From: "Rob P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>               > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>               > Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:42 PM
>               > Subject: Strut brace works for me!
>               >
>               >
>               > > Cam,
>               > > Thanks for the custom strut brace, I can actually feel
> quite a
>               difference
>               > in
>               > > rigidity of the bodywork on my stock 1600 with worn
> suspension - the
>               > shocks
>               > > are like bike pumps (might have to try refilling the
> shocks with
>               > motorcycle
>               > > fork oil, motor oil, tranny oil...... or choc milk -ha
> ha, seems like
>               > > opinions differ :P  ). It also looks pretty sweet too!
> Now to upgrade
>               the
>               > > rest of the suspension $$$....
>               > >
>               > > Rob P
>               > >
>               > >
>               > >
>               >
>               >
> 
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