My sister in law about three weeks ago traded in her 1999 BMW and brought a
rover 2002 used done 7000km      $80,000nz.(NZ new 1 owner)

2000 R34 Skyline GTTi-GTsT (or what ever they call them) $25,000
1990 R32 GTR $32,000

Now why pay $80,000 for a used Rover??shit whats a new one?

Now surely a old 240/260Z has more style and class,gee go all the way buy a
fully restored one 2 seater What $20,000  or a shitter that goes $2000+..

Value for money in cars is the key to not losing money,once you have learnt
this you will never do cash on a car,If you want go and buy a brand new car
then sell it a few years later ,and whats it cost you  $10,000 20,000 in
devalue...(not a wise move)But the Jones werent happy).

Plus look at my leopard,Ugly car but its like a wart it grows on you.Now
quad cam 32 valve,V8,4 speed auto with O/D also with manual shifting+power
mode,trackion control,LSD,4 wheel ABS,power steering,IRS,, gee the list goes
on and on,
Now the toyota NZ new model of this Nissan Leopard same year 1993 is
$45,000.

Now because Nissan didnt sell the leopard here these years people dont know
of it and its just a jap import but for my $12,500 I cannot replace it with
a holden or a ford for under $120,000.(for power output and featuers)


The last Nissan Leopard sold here New was around 1986 sorry I carnt think of
the model but Tamiya make a model of it,Here New they had the Turbo L28 and
5 speed and cost $15,000nz more than a 280Z.

Malcolm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Ford Vs Holden Vs NZ was Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly


> You seem to have value for money and price permanently linked together
>
> They are not the same thing...
>
> There are expensive new cars that give good value for money and there
> are expensive cars that give very poor value for money.  You may not be
> a new car buyer, but there are lots and lots of them around!  I pinched
> the quote anyway so if you really want to argue, then go argue with the
> COTY writer at Wheels magazine.
>
> maldat wrote:
>
> >Who cares?
> >Most people what value for money and NO new car has that,,,Sorry the
little
> >granny cars are good for free running tyre's and servicing,Suzuki
etc,,Sweet
> >if you wanna drive at 45Kph..
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tom Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:21 AM
> >Subject: Re: Ford Vs Holden Vs NZ was Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Malcolm,
> >>
> >>'new car dollar' not 'used car dollar'
> >>
> >>- Tom
> >>
> >>PS How many people in NZ are employed in the local automotive industry?
> >>
> >>maldat wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Used car prices,well you are spot on.
> >>>1989 nissan laraul  from $300nz
> >>>I know a guy that brought a real nice(if they are)1987 bluebird with
the
> >>>LD20(2)$500nz(cheap runner)
> >>>R32 GTR is still $32,000nz 1989-95  same price.
> >>>R34 4 door 2000 model $18,000nz  (only 2000cc)still looks good.
> >>>
> >>>R32 $2000-$15,000 depending on how hotted up.
> >>>
> >>>Malcolm
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 2:57 AM
> >>>Subject: Ford Vs Holden Vs NZ was Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Its quite funny because when I was in NZ a year ago Fords and Holdens
> >>>>(especially performance ones) are quite rare (probably due to the
price
> >>>>difference between the imports from Australia and Japan).
> >>>>This seemed to make them stand out much more with so many skylines and
> >>>>supras buzzing around.  Plus you need to be doing well in NZ to
justify
> >>>>an Aussie car .
> >>>>
> >>>>I think the New Zealanders don't understand the difference in owning
an
> >>>>import here.  With this new turbo falcon I'm even impressed with the
> >>>>offering the Aussie market is getting now.
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't know why I am getting offended here, usually I am bagging the
> >>>>aussie cars.. nissan do cars so much better and the recent release of
> >>>>IRS in the VT commodores (such new technology!!!) and the engine
> >>>>technology offered is a joke, but it isn't as viable here to drive an
> >>>>import here as there is a marked depreciation difference between our
> >>>>import and Aussie built cars.
> >>>>
> >>>>Speaking of depreciation.. how much is a $20,000 car worth in 3 years
> >>>>time in NZ...  lol
> >>>>
> >>>>Still the fact you can walk in and buy a factory backed new GT-R for
$80
> >>>>or $90  is pretty good. (too bad its work $50,000 when you drive it
out
> >>>>of the showroom). And the 200sx we get here is a joke compared to the
> >>>>185kw version from Japan....
> >>>>
> >>>>- Julian
> >>>>
> >>>>E Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Is there something in the water in Christchurch? Laughing at our high
> >>>>>performance fords and holdens.
> >>>>>What about when the supercars came over to Pukekhoe (? spelling) just
> >>>>>a few weeks ago. Pretty fast taxis!!!!
> >>>>>These taxis are now doing better times than the works GTR's were
doing
> >>>>>;-)
> >>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>Feral Errol
> >>>>><http://www.datrats.com.au/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of maldat
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:41 PM
> >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Gee this is getting wanky.
> >>>>>Of cousre its not a Falcon GT ,cos they go to slow and dont
> >>>>>handle,What falcon ever has won a race outside of ozzie or NZ?..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Get with the program,,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Malcolm
> >>>>>P.S
> >>>>>Bathurst is a total JOKE,,supercars Ha ha holden and ford DONT MAKE
> >>>>>SUPERCARS.THEY MAKE TAXI'S.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   -----Help me,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Don't get me wrong  - I'd buy one if I found one for sale - but
> >>>>>   what is so special about a P510SSS ? Let's face, they're NOT a
> >>>>>   Falcon GT (where stock original is worth more than modified and
> >>>>>   big name people invest mega bucks in them). All I see is a couple
> >>>>>   of small SU type carbys on an L16 with a bit more compression and
> >>>>>   a great looking dash. Interior is nothing special, wheels & brakes
> >>>>>   are the same, same floor shift 4 speed as the standard 510 etc..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   I am aware of supply vs. demand, but even in today's special
> >>>>>   events such as Targa Tassie and Classic Adelaide, Datto people are
> >>>>>   calling their cars H510SSS with L18, even though they are P510s
> >>>>>   (originally fitted with L16s).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   I see some of these bullshit prices floating around for
> >>>>>   P510SSS equipment that's not that special and yes I'm confused.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Rick, are you missing the SSS rocker cover (with three full ribs)?
> >>>>>   Maybe I didn't quite pick it up in the photos. Nice original find
> >>>>>   anyway.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Dunc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   >From: "maldat" >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To:
> >>>>>   >Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly >Date: Thu, 12 Dec
> >>>>>   2002 01:19:03 +1300 > >Rick whats your address and i'll post you a
> >>>>>   510/610 sss oil sender that one you have is ugly big and not stock
> >>>>>   looking.. > >See I'm not a over priced person ,,just a person that
> >>>>>   knows if you what a nice car and it costs.Parts are only worth
> >>>>>   what someone wants to pay.. >I have been asked a few times if I
> >>>>>   want to sell my 510SSS spot light grille for $500usd,and the guy
> >>>>>   knows I only have one light not two but the grille is 100% mint
> >>>>>   with badge..I dont really want to sell it,,but hey everything has
> >>>>>   a price!(thinking hard,HHmmm,I'll never have anther one,,so whats
> >>>>>   it worth?) > >Infact Rick would you like a later model rubber
> >>>>>   covered one or a plain steel one? > >malcolm > ----- Original
> >>>>>   Message ----- > From: Rick White > To:
> >>>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 11,
> >>>>>   2002 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > >
> >>>>>   Terry. > Yes that is what I was trying to explain to Malcolm a
> >>>>>   couple of weeks ago when he said the two were the same. > As you
> >>>>>   see they are not. > I was seriously stuck for that oil pressure
> >>>>>   switch that is in my SSS, it took them ages to find it, it
> >>>>>   supposably was the last New Old Stock one that Nissan in Perth
> >>>>>   had. > I hope it never breaks, otherwise I may have to take you up
> >>>>>   on that offer. > My wagon pics have been there for like over 8
> >>>>>   months, took you a wile to go in and check them out. > How close
> >>>>>   is my 1970 SSS to the one you owned, going by the pics?? > Later.
> >>>>>   > Rick White. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Rudd >
> >>>>>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 11,
> >>>>>   2002 3:01 PM > Subject: RE: My SSS pics uploaded correctly > > >
> >>>>>   Rick, > > L18SSS and L16SSS oil pressure senders are the same and
> >>>>>   therefore identical - I have a spare or two somewhere under the
> >>>>>   house if you get stuck for one. > > I like your wagon, I'm
> >>>>>   seriously going to look out for one some day - the oil pressure
> >>>>>   sender in the wagon is a stock switch - suitable only for an idiot
> >>>>>   dash light. > > regards > Terry > -----Original Message----- >
> >>>>>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick
> >>>>>   White > Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 3:21 PM > To:
> >>>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: My SSS pics uploaded
> >>>>>   correctly > > > Kristian, > The one on the SSS is for a guage, not
> >>>>>   a idiot light, so if you have a guage then yes it is a good
> >>>>>   replacement. > Later. > Rick White. > > >
> >>>>>
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