Good to read that you're makin' some progress - had us worried there for a
while.

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Jackson
Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 7:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Brake Problem


Fixed the brake problem.

Adjusted the pedal depth - bolt from the booster and it seems with the 
longer pedal the point where the brakes engage is higher and now there is 
some bite - just need a little more fine tuning.

THanks to all for the help.

cheers,
Adam

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "The Cleary's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>>
>>
>> > FR/FL/RR/RL?
>> > i was told that you bled the furthest first, ie RL, then RR then FL
>> > then
>> > FR
>> > last,
>> > but with a dual system it probably doesn;t really matter if it's front
> or
>> > rear first?
>> >
>> > u lost me with this
>> > foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip, etc
>> >
>> > pump the pedal, hold the pedal down then loosen the bleed nipple, 
>> > but before the pedal hits the floor, tighten the bleen nipple, then 
>> > pump the pedal
> a
>> > couple of times and repeat.
>> > is this what you mean??
>> > r u in Brisbane?
>> > i found my receipt for all my brake bits, my MC is a JB1289
>> >
>> > Heath
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:21 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>> >
>> >
>> >> Richard,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for taking the time to type all of that. That's exactly how
>> >> i've
>> > bled
>> >> the system - foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip, etc... 
>> >> I've
>> > changed
>> >> brakes on all my cars previously and never had this problem. Mind
>> >> you -
>> > the
>> >> datto has new tubing throughout so air could quite possibly be 
>> >> stuck
>> >> in
>> >> there? Although I have put a number of bottles through the system now.
>> >>
>> >> I actually haven't checked the master cylinder properly yet - so 
>> >> i'll
>> > check
>> >> that one today, but all the other nipples are flowing fluid with 
>> >> no
>> > bubbles.
>> >> This is the reason I thought there maybe a leak - power has to be 
>> >> lost somewhere and then on the flipside if there was a leak then 
>> >> the fluid
>> > levels
>> >> would drop and guess what - they haven't ;)
>> >>
>> >> I'll bet $100 on it being a stupid mistake of mine - just a matter 
>> >> of finding it.
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >> Thanks i'll check the booster as you've mentioned. With re to the 
>> >> M/C leaking - as I said above, I would have thought that the fluid 
>> >> levels
>> > would
>> >> drop with a leak and that's just not happening...
>> >>
>> >> thanks for the suggestions guys, hopefully I have some good news 
>> >> this
>> > arvo.
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> Adam
>> >> .
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:49 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > OK, back to basics.
>> >> > 1  Are you bleeding it correctly?
>> >> > Dont allow pumped fluid to be drawn back when lifting the brake
> pedal.
>> >> > Fit a plastic tube to the bleed nipple.  Run the tube to a 
>> >> > container
> of
>> >> > brake fluid.  Ensure the end of the tube is emersed in brake 
>> >> > fluid
> when
>> >> > pumping. Nip off the bleeder, before lifting the pedal.  This 
>> >> > takes
> two
>> >> > people one to operate the bleed nipple and one to pump the 
>> >> > pedal.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2  Does fluid flow cleanly (no air bubbles) from the master 
>> >> > cylinder bleeder or outlet pipe? If not fix it. (Bleed it or 
>> >> > repair it) If yes,
>> >> > 3 Does fluid flow cleanly from each of the four wheel cylinders,
> after
>> >> > being bled in the order FR/FL/RR/RL?
>> >> > If no, find out why.
>> >> > If yes,
>> >> > After locking all bleeders hold down the brake pedal and check 
>> >> > for leaks thoughout all brake lines and flexible hoses - 
>> >> > particularly check for
>> >> > cracks in hoses and fluid leaks at pipe connections.  These can be
> hard
>> > to
>> >> > detect if the component fitting is wet with fluid.
>> >> > 3 If the fluid is flowing air free through the system, with no
>> >> > leaks,
>> >> > check the operation of the Power Booster. Probably a job for a
>> >> > professional Brake Mechanic.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > To: <[email protected]>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:13 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Richard & Matt,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks - that's the way I have it setup atm. I still can't find 
>> >> >> the problem - brakes have zero power - infact I jacked up the 
>> >> >> back took off the wheels, started up the motor and put it in 
>> >> >> gear. I just let the engines idle spin the discs. I jump on the 
>> >> >> brakes and it doesn't
> seem
>> > to
>> >> >> have much clamping force. I'd expect it to stall the engine
>> >> >> straight
>> >> >> away - but i had to really stomp on the brakes to get that to
> happen.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bit lost with this problem. I can't find any leaks, fluid is
>> >> >> getting
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> all calipers as I have bled them all and no air is coming out. I
> think
>> >> >> i'm going to bleed the brakes with a couple of bottles of fluid
>> >> >> just
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> be sure.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are there any other reasons that may cause zero power in the 
>> >> >> brake system? The booster has kicked the bucket perhaps? Is 
>> >> >> there anyway
> of
>> >> >> checking the booster is working correctly?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> Adam
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:35 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I would recommend Nipple up, so air bleeds out first.  Nipple 
>> >> >>>down will leave the air trapped inside while fluid runs out.
>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>> To: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:45 AM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Ok - sorry if there was areply to this already, I had a 
>> >> >>>> problem
> with
>> > my
>> >> >>>> email and it's deleted all of the last 3 or 4 days worth of
>> >> >>>> emails
>> >> >>>> :\
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I just checked my mastercylinder and it has 7/8 clearly 
>> >> >>>> stamped
>> >> >>>> on
>> > the
>> >> >>>> side of it. So i'm guessing maybe a leak? I'm yet to find a
>> >> >>>> leak -
>> >> >>>> everything seems pretty good and the brakes were bled with zero
>> > bubbles
>> >> >>>> coming out. Also, i'm still a little concerned about the 
>> >> >>>> front
>> > brakes -
>> >> >>>> which side is which??? ie nipple up top or bottom - I 
>> >> >>>> remember on
> a
>> >> >>>> mates 180sx we put on new brakes and forgot which was L and R 
>> >> >>>> and
>> > ended
>> >> >>>> up putting them on the wrong sides they didn't work at all 
>> >> >>>> but
> swap
>> >> >>>> them over and problem solved. Would this be the case with the 
>> >> >>>> VL
>> > Turbo
>> >> >>>> calipers too?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> cheers,
>> >> >>>> Adam
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
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