just make sure u press brake pedal before loosening nipple,
is the pedal hard? or does it sink to the floor,

Heath
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: Brake Problem


> Heath,
>
> Yeah i was always told start from furtherst nipple first...
>
> "foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip"
> was my short hand for loosen nipple, depress brake pedal tighten up nipple
> (nip it up ;) ), loosen nipple, depress.......So yeah what you said
>
> i'm in nsw - i worked on the brakes for a few hours today and still don't
> feel any closer to figuring out the problem. I ran another bottle through
> the rear lines and managed to push through a couple of small bubbles - so
> maybe it's just that. Just a guess - but there is probably more air in
> there - a little annoyed today with the whole thing...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Cleary's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
>
>
> > FR/FL/RR/RL?
> > i was told that you bled the furthest first, ie RL, then RR then FL then
> > FR
> > last,
> > but with a dual system it probably doesn;t really matter if it's front
or
> > rear first?
> >
> > u lost me with this
> > foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip, etc
> >
> > pump the pedal, hold the pedal down then loosen the bleed nipple, but
> > before
> > the pedal hits the floor, tighten the bleen nipple, then pump the pedal
a
> > couple of times and repeat.
> > is this what you mean??
> > r u in Brisbane?
> > i found my receipt for all my brake bits, my MC is a JB1289
> >
> > Heath
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Brake Problem
> >
> >
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> Thanks for taking the time to type all of that. That's exactly how i've
> > bled
> >> the system - foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip, etc... I've
> > changed
> >> brakes on all my cars previously and never had this problem. Mind you -
> > the
> >> datto has new tubing throughout so air could quite possibly be stuck in
> >> there? Although I have put a number of bottles through the system now.
> >>
> >> I actually haven't checked the master cylinder properly yet - so i'll
> > check
> >> that one today, but all the other nipples are flowing fluid with no
> > bubbles.
> >> This is the reason I thought there maybe a leak - power has to be lost
> >> somewhere and then on the flipside if there was a leak then the fluid
> > levels
> >> would drop and guess what - they haven't ;)
> >>
> >> I'll bet $100 on it being a stupid mistake of mine - just a matter of
> >> finding it.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Thanks i'll check the booster as you've mentioned. With re to the M/C
> >> leaking - as I said above, I would have thought that the fluid levels
> > would
> >> drop with a leak and that's just not happening...
> >>
> >> thanks for the suggestions guys, hopefully I have some good news this
> > arvo.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> Adam
> >> .
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:49 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
> >>
> >>
> >> > OK, back to basics.
> >> > 1  Are you bleeding it correctly?
> >> > Dont allow pumped fluid to be drawn back when lifting the brake
pedal.
> >> > Fit a plastic tube to the bleed nipple.  Run the tube to a container
of
> >> > brake fluid.  Ensure the end of the tube is emersed in brake fluid
when
> >> > pumping. Nip off the bleeder, before lifting the pedal.  This takes
two
> >> > people one to operate the bleed nipple and one to pump the pedal.
> >> >
> >> > 2  Does fluid flow cleanly (no air bubbles) from the master cylinder
> >> > bleeder or outlet pipe?
> >> > If not fix it. (Bleed it or repair it)
> >> > If yes,
> >> > 3 Does fluid flow cleanly from each of the four wheel cylinders,
after
> >> > being bled in the order FR/FL/RR/RL?
> >> > If no, find out why.
> >> > If yes,
> >> > After locking all bleeders hold down the brake pedal and check for
> >> > leaks
> >> > thoughout all brake lines and flexible hoses - particularly check for
> >> > cracks in hoses and fluid leaks at pipe connections.  These can be
hard
> > to
> >> > detect if the component fitting is wet with fluid.
> >> > 3 If the fluid is flowing air free through the system, with no leaks,
> >> > check the operation of the Power Booster. Probably a job for a
> >> > professional Brake Mechanic.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <[email protected]>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:13 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Brake Problem
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Richard & Matt,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks - that's the way I have it setup atm. I still can't find the
> >> >> problem - brakes have zero power - infact I jacked up the back took
> >> >> off
> >> >> the wheels, started up the motor and put it in gear. I just let the
> >> >> engines idle spin the discs. I jump on the brakes and it doesn't
seem
> > to
> >> >> have much clamping force. I'd expect it to stall the engine straight
> >> >> away - but i had to really stomp on the brakes to get that to
happen.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bit lost with this problem. I can't find any leaks, fluid is getting
> >> >> to
> >> >> all calipers as I have bled them all and no air is coming out. I
think
> >> >> i'm going to bleed the brakes with a couple of bottles of fluid just
> >> >> to
> >> >> be sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are there any other reasons that may cause zero power in the brake
> >> >> system? The booster has kicked the bucket perhaps? Is there anyway
of
> >> >> checking the booster is working correctly?
> >> >>
> >> >> cheers,
> >> >> Adam
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:35 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>I would recommend Nipple up, so air bleeds out first.  Nipple down
> >> >>>will
> >> >>>leave the air trapped inside while fluid runs out.
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>> To: <[email protected]>
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:45 AM
> >> >>> Subject: Re: Brake Problem
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Ok - sorry if there was areply to this already, I had a problem
with
> > my
> >> >>>> email and it's deleted all of the last 3 or 4 days worth of emails
> >> >>>> :\
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I just checked my mastercylinder and it has 7/8 clearly stamped on
> > the
> >> >>>> side of it. So i'm guessing maybe a leak? I'm yet to find a leak -
> >> >>>> everything seems pretty good and the brakes were bled with zero
> > bubbles
> >> >>>> coming out. Also, i'm still a little concerned about the front
> > brakes -
> >> >>>> which side is which??? ie nipple up top or bottom - I remember on
a
> >> >>>> mates 180sx we put on new brakes and forgot which was L and R and
> > ended
> >> >>>> up putting them on the wrong sides they didn't work at all but
swap
> >> >>>> them over and problem solved. Would this be the case with the VL
> > Turbo
> >> >>>> calipers too?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> cheers,
> >> >>>> Adam
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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