FR/FL/RR/RL? i was told that you bled the furthest first, ie RL, then RR then FL then FR last, but with a dual system it probably doesn;t really matter if it's front or rear first?
u lost me with this foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip, etc pump the pedal, hold the pedal down then loosen the bleed nipple, but before the pedal hits the floor, tighten the bleen nipple, then pump the pedal a couple of times and repeat. is this what you mean?? r u in Brisbane? i found my receipt for all my brake bits, my MC is a JB1289 Heath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Brake Problem > Richard, > > Thanks for taking the time to type all of that. That's exactly how i've bled > the system - foot in nip, foot out, loosen, foot in nip, etc... I've changed > brakes on all my cars previously and never had this problem. Mind you - the > datto has new tubing throughout so air could quite possibly be stuck in > there? Although I have put a number of bottles through the system now. > > I actually haven't checked the master cylinder properly yet - so i'll check > that one today, but all the other nipples are flowing fluid with no bubbles. > This is the reason I thought there maybe a leak - power has to be lost > somewhere and then on the flipside if there was a leak then the fluid levels > would drop and guess what - they haven't ;) > > I'll bet $100 on it being a stupid mistake of mine - just a matter of > finding it. > > Mark > > Thanks i'll check the booster as you've mentioned. With re to the M/C > leaking - as I said above, I would have thought that the fluid levels would > drop with a leak and that's just not happening... > > thanks for the suggestions guys, hopefully I have some good news this arvo. > > cheers, > Adam > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: Brake Problem > > > > OK, back to basics. > > 1 Are you bleeding it correctly? > > Dont allow pumped fluid to be drawn back when lifting the brake pedal. > > Fit a plastic tube to the bleed nipple. Run the tube to a container of > > brake fluid. Ensure the end of the tube is emersed in brake fluid when > > pumping. Nip off the bleeder, before lifting the pedal. This takes two > > people one to operate the bleed nipple and one to pump the pedal. > > > > 2 Does fluid flow cleanly (no air bubbles) from the master cylinder > > bleeder or outlet pipe? > > If not fix it. (Bleed it or repair it) > > If yes, > > 3 Does fluid flow cleanly from each of the four wheel cylinders, after > > being bled in the order FR/FL/RR/RL? > > If no, find out why. > > If yes, > > After locking all bleeders hold down the brake pedal and check for leaks > > thoughout all brake lines and flexible hoses - particularly check for > > cracks in hoses and fluid leaks at pipe connections. These can be hard to > > detect if the component fitting is wet with fluid. > > 3 If the fluid is flowing air free through the system, with no leaks, > > check the operation of the Power Booster. Probably a job for a > > professional Brake Mechanic. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:13 PM > > Subject: Re: Brake Problem > > > > > >> Richard & Matt, > >> > >> Thanks - that's the way I have it setup atm. I still can't find the > >> problem - brakes have zero power - infact I jacked up the back took off > >> the wheels, started up the motor and put it in gear. I just let the > >> engines idle spin the discs. I jump on the brakes and it doesn't seem to > >> have much clamping force. I'd expect it to stall the engine straight > >> away - but i had to really stomp on the brakes to get that to happen. > >> > >> Bit lost with this problem. I can't find any leaks, fluid is getting to > >> all calipers as I have bled them all and no air is coming out. I think > >> i'm going to bleed the brakes with a couple of bottles of fluid just to > >> be sure. > >> > >> Are there any other reasons that may cause zero power in the brake > >> system? The booster has kicked the bucket perhaps? Is there anyway of > >> checking the booster is working correctly? > >> > >> cheers, > >> Adam > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Richard Clough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:35 PM > >> Subject: Re: Brake Problem > >> > >> > >>>I would recommend Nipple up, so air bleeds out first. Nipple down will > >>>leave the air trapped inside while fluid runs out. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Adam Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:45 AM > >>> Subject: Re: Brake Problem > >>> > >>> > >>>> Ok - sorry if there was areply to this already, I had a problem with my > >>>> email and it's deleted all of the last 3 or 4 days worth of emails :\ > >>>> > >>>> I just checked my mastercylinder and it has 7/8 clearly stamped on the > >>>> side of it. So i'm guessing maybe a leak? I'm yet to find a leak - > >>>> everything seems pretty good and the brakes were bled with zero bubbles > >>>> coming out. Also, i'm still a little concerned about the front brakes - > >>>> which side is which??? ie nipple up top or bottom - I remember on a > >>>> mates 180sx we put on new brakes and forgot which was L and R and ended > >>>> up putting them on the wrong sides they didn't work at all but swap > >>>> them over and problem solved. Would this be the case with the VL Turbo > >>>> calipers too? > >>>> > >>>> cheers, > >>>> Adam > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: > >>>> 4/07/2006 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: > >>>> 4/07/2006 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 4/07/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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