Ohh boy, now we have politics and religion on the discussion table:)
It's all Wiltons fault for mentioning the war, I may have mentioned it
once but I think I got away with it.
Anyway, regarding the 'temporary' troop withdrawal from Iraq.
My vague recollection of this was that it was decided before President
Obama came into office
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
And yes Max we can see that your trying to put some sort of xenophobic
spin on it, this is the sort of thing that lets to heated debates,
perhaps we should try and stick to the facts?
Fact is that a republican president decided to invade a sovereign
country on the basis that the regime in that country was involved in the
terrorist attack on 9/11 and had WMD. Neither of which where ever proven
to be true.
Then the spin turned to liberation of the Iraq people but there was no
clear plan on how to achieve this and perhaps no clear understanding of
the dynamics of Iraq.
In some ways the US has a simplistic view, insofar that they think, 'we
kicked the British out and lived happily ever after' so if we give
others that sort of opportunity it will work out well.
However one of the key differences is that America was a young country
with lots of opportunity and the people there pretty much had a common
goal (especially since they mostly had a common background). Whereas in
most other countries there are centuries old rivalries between the
different ethnic groups and all those groups are trying to grab as much
for themselves as they can.
Plus throw into the mix some religious nut jobs who appeal to the young
who have no job and can see no future and you get a nasty brew.
However the real question is how do you fix the mess, sure send in the
troops, wipe out as much of ISIS as you can and then declare job done
again but then another group of nutters will jump up and cycle will repeat.
President Bush junior had a lot of years to achieve some sort of
stability in Iraq but no, lets blame Obama because he is a democrat and
has a sort of foreign name.
Hendrik
who sometimes mixes fact with fiction
On 18/09/14 07:06, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Curt,
I've asked several Iraqis point blank: did America do the right thing? The
answer they gave me is "Yes!".
The Iraqis didn't throw us out, Barack Hussein Obama made it a campaign
pledge to pull us out. Iraq very much wanted to negotiate an agreement for
our troops to stay, it was Obama who ended those negotiations.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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