I hadn't considered the idea but our soil is pretty sandy, a cave in wouldn't
be so dangerous as somebody dropping something on you.
They were rolling what I assume is PEX from the street to the house, 2 guys in
the trench managing the roll, a 3rd running a digger putting down sand under
the pipe. I didn't stick around to see but I presume they went back and put
sand directly over the pipe before filling in the trench.
-Curt
On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 4:34:32 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
Wow! That’s dangerous! My Dad always told me to never be in a trench any
higher than my armpits, if that.
-D
> On Jun 26, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I saw a crew putting in a water line this morning, you could just see their
> heads in the trench. It freezes pretty good here, in 2015 our neighbor's
> water froze twice between his house and the street.
> That said my aunt and uncle have solar hot water and claim its the bee's
> knees. We've been considering it.
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 4:03:11 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
><mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> We replaced an older, functioning gas tank unit a few years ago with a
> reputable new one. Just found from new owners that it failed. Old one would
> likely still be going strong I'm sure. Warranty covered the unit.
>
> Now we run a navien gas tankless with integral recirc pump and smart timing
> on the pump. Happy so far. It is outside. Not sure it saves any money but
> no earthquake or rupture risk and never runs out of hot water.
>
> Surprised no one is mentioning solar or attic preheat. A heat exchanger in
> the attic on the heater supply line with a fan would lower energy input
> considerably in summer. Same with a rooftop solar exchanger. Down here it
> never freezes, so it is pretty simple. People heat pools with rooftop solar
> water loops all the time.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 8:10 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I was thinking that in the case of a water heater age plays into it. As I
>> understand it they do have a lifespan and when one leaks it can be pretty
>> terrible...
>> If it were old (20 years?) I'd say replace it with the same again. The new
>> one will have better insulation and be more efficient. If its fairly new
>> (less than 10 years?) I'd leave it alone. Its that middle ground thats a
>> question...
>> -Curt
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 10:16:10 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Would I be better off convincing her to leave the gas 30 gal heater be?
>>
>> Has she never heard: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." There is true
>> wisdom, there.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
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