The air coming out of the mini-split in my barn feels quite warm, especially 
compared to a normal central heat pump system.  But the moving air may still 
feel cool across the room.  Also, the mini-split air handler always needs some 
air flow (blower on low) to sense room temperature.

Something I didn't mention is the mini-split has a minimal air filter, just a 
screen.  Nothing like the pleated filters in large central units.

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Don, is the outlet air temperature decent? That's one thing that a lot of 
people don't get used to if they've experienced gas or electric forced air - 
the outlet temps are generally quite a bit higher than what a heat pump puts 
out.

I'm curious about this as I don't want to put something in the casita that 
won't perform.

Thanks!

-D
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The Mitsubishi mini-split we had installed last year is rated for either 5 or 
10F. It has been down to 15F so far, and it held the temp just fine. The temp 
is supposed to drop to 12F tonight - we'll see.It's also very quiet.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> yes we just had one rated 4F installed in our church rectory.
>  the one we put in our house 15 years ago is rated 30F for heat
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 6:00 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, there are heat pumps now rated for lower temperatures. My 
> > insulation guys in Flagstaff offered me a mini-split that’s good 
> > down to
> 4F
> > (-15C) for the casita. Granted, I can’t imagine the air temperature
> coming
> > out of it would be that great, but it’s supposed to produce heat 
> > down to that ambient temperature.
> >
> > I passed for now, but I may still do it so I can disable the old gas 
> > wall furnace that’s currently in there.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > It really isn't a problem for Tesla owners to keep the car warm 
> > > in
> > really cold weather. They just light it on fire and it burns hot for
> days.
> > >
> > > Heat pumps for houses don't work here in the winter temperatures. 
> > > They
> > are fine in spring and fall but come winter, you will be relying 
> > upon electric heat built in to the heat pump system.
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 05/01/2022 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Ask the folks in Teslas who were stranded on the interstate in
> Virginia.
> > >>
> > >> I think at least the newer EV cars do not use resistance heating,
> which
> > would be a heavy drain on the batteries, but use a heat pump system 
> > which should be more efficient, at least as long as it's not *too* 
> > cold
> outside.
> > >>
> > >> I don't know how a half-charged EV vs. a car with a half-tank of 
> > >> gas
> > would compare as far as keeping warm enough to prevent hypothermia 
> > in a "stranded in a blizzard" scenario.
> > >>
> > >> Allan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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