What was the install cost for your geothermal system? This would work great in the mid-Atlantic but has never really caught on. How much acreage did you need?
On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:02 AM OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan, I've lived with heat pumps since 1979 - the earlier ones had resistive > backup heat that did come on below freezing. This new one doesn't have any > resistive elements. In our main house, we have geothermal, and > occasionally the resistive elements would fire up, but I've pulled the > cut-off on them so we just have the geothermal now and it's been just fine, > even below 0F last winter. > No, they don't blow hot air, and the warm air does blow more than a hot air > system would, but it's not a problem, at least for us. YMMV. > The new mini-split is in the 700 sq ft "guest house" where my wife is now > growing veggies all year round -and it replaced a couple of window units > (one was a heat pump) and some electric space heaters. The electric use is > about a third of what it was last year. When we installed the geothermal in > the big house, our total energy cost was cut in half. > We're very happy with both of them. > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:59 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Don, is the outlet air temperature decent? That's one thing that a lot of > > people don't get used to if they've experienced gas or electric forced > air > > - the outlet temps are generally quite a bit higher than what a heat pump > > puts out. > > > > I'm curious about this as I don't want to put something in the casita > that > > won't perform. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -D > > ________________________________ > > From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of OK Don via > > Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 9:34 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware > > > > The Mitsubishi mini-split we had installed last year is rated for either > 5 > > or 10F. It has been down to 15F so far, and it held the temp just fine. > The > > temp is supposed to drop to 12F tonight - we'll see.It's also very quiet. > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > yes we just had one rated 4F installed in our church rectory. > > > the one we put in our house 15 years ago is rated 30F for heat > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 6:00 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, there are heat pumps now rated for lower temperatures. My > > > > insulation guys in Flagstaff offered me a mini-split that’s good down > > to > > > 4F > > > > (-15C) for the casita. Granted, I can’t imagine the air temperature > > > coming > > > > out of it would be that great, but it’s supposed to produce heat down > > to > > > > that ambient temperature. > > > > > > > > I passed for now, but I may still do it so I can disable the old gas > > wall > > > > furnace that’s currently in there. > > > > > > > > -D > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > > > On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It really isn't a problem for Tesla owners to keep the car warm in > > > > really cold weather. They just light it on fire and it burns hot for > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > Heat pumps for houses don't work here in the winter temperatures. > > They > > > > are fine in spring and fall but come winter, you will be relying upon > > > > electric heat built in to the heat pump system. > > > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 05/01/2022 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > > > > >> Ask the folks in Teslas who were stranded on the interstate in > > > Virginia. > > > > >> > > > > >> I think at least the newer EV cars do not use resistance heating, > > > which > > > > would be a heavy drain on the batteries, but use a heat pump system > > which > > > > should be more efficient, at least as long as it's not *too* cold > > > outside. > > > > >> > > > > >> I don't know how a half-charged EV vs. a car with a half-tank of > gas > > > > would compare as far as keeping warm enough to prevent hypothermia > in a > > > > "stranded in a blizzard" scenario. > > > > >> > > > > >> Allan > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
