We seriously considered geothermal for the massif we owned in Indiana. This would have been 2010, but for a 4,000 SF two story house the total would have been around $14,000, less Federal and State incentives bringing our out the door cost of around $10,000-$11,000 as I recall. Average monthly bill regardless of season was estimated at under $100.
Also, in Indiana the state gave you a cut on your property taxes for installing geothermal. It wasn’t a substantial amount, but hey, like Geddy Lee says, “10 bucks is 10 bucks.” -D > On Jan 6, 2022, at 6:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > What was the install cost for your geothermal system? This would work > great in the mid-Atlantic but has never really caught on. How much acreage > did you need? > >> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:02 AM OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dan, I've lived with heat pumps since 1979 - the earlier ones had resistive >> backup heat that did come on below freezing. This new one doesn't have any >> resistive elements. In our main house, we have geothermal, and >> occasionally the resistive elements would fire up, but I've pulled the >> cut-off on them so we just have the geothermal now and it's been just fine, >> even below 0F last winter. >> No, they don't blow hot air, and the warm air does blow more than a hot air >> system would, but it's not a problem, at least for us. YMMV. >> The new mini-split is in the 700 sq ft "guest house" where my wife is now >> growing veggies all year round -and it replaced a couple of window units >> (one was a heat pump) and some electric space heaters. The electric use is >> about a third of what it was last year. When we installed the geothermal in >> the big house, our total energy cost was cut in half. >> We're very happy with both of them. >> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 8:59 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Don, is the outlet air temperature decent? That's one thing that a lot of >>> people don't get used to if they've experienced gas or electric forced >> air >>> - the outlet temps are generally quite a bit higher than what a heat pump >>> puts out. >>> >>> I'm curious about this as I don't want to put something in the casita >> that >>> won't perform. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -D >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Mercedes <mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com> on behalf of OK Don via >>> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 9:34 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware >>> >>> The Mitsubishi mini-split we had installed last year is rated for either >> 5 >>> or 10F. It has been down to 15F so far, and it held the temp just fine. >> The >>> temp is supposed to drop to 12F tonight - we'll see.It's also very quiet. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>>> yes we just had one rated 4F installed in our church rectory. >>>> the one we put in our house 15 years ago is rated 30F for heat >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 6:00 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually, there are heat pumps now rated for lower temperatures. My >>>>> insulation guys in Flagstaff offered me a mini-split that’s good down >>> to >>>> 4F >>>>> (-15C) for the casita. Granted, I can’t imagine the air temperature >>>> coming >>>>> out of it would be that great, but it’s supposed to produce heat down >>> to >>>>> that ambient temperature. >>>>> >>>>> I passed for now, but I may still do it so I can disable the old gas >>> wall >>>>> furnace that’s currently in there. >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 3:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It really isn't a problem for Tesla owners to keep the car warm in >>>>> really cold weather. They just light it on fire and it burns hot for >>>> days. >>>>>> >>>>>> Heat pumps for houses don't work here in the winter temperatures. >>> They >>>>> are fine in spring and fall but come winter, you will be relying upon >>>>> electric heat built in to the heat pump system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Randy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05/01/2022 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>>>>>> Ask the folks in Teslas who were stranded on the interstate in >>>> Virginia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think at least the newer EV cars do not use resistance heating, >>>> which >>>>> would be a heavy drain on the batteries, but use a heat pump system >>> which >>>>> should be more efficient, at least as long as it's not *too* cold >>>> outside. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know how a half-charged EV vs. a car with a half-tank of >> gas >>>>> would compare as far as keeping warm enough to prevent hypothermia >> in a >>>>> "stranded in a blizzard" scenario. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Allan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
