We used to use a simple tool called Johari's Window to begin to get at
these matters.  There's what I can see about me, what I don't see
about me, what others can see of me and what others can't see of me.
Once we throw in decpetion (a key evolutionary ingredient), it gets
quite complicated.  When it comes to perception, have a think about
this fairly recent MIT experiment.  Kidnap several hundred students.
Split into two groups.  Let the first group try 2 beers - budweiser
and busweiser with a tad of balsamic vinegar.  Tell them about the
balsamic addition.  They nearly all say the beer with vinegar in is
shite.  Use the second group as a control and just give them the two
"beers" - don't tell them about the vinegar.  This group actually
prefer the bud with balsamic vinegar in it.  Wondering it you have a
new miracle (drinkable Budweiser) on hand, you kidnap another group of
students.  You give this lot the bud and bud plus as well, not telling
them about the vinegar until after the experiment.  This lot say much
the same as the lot not told about the balsamic vinegar at all.  Some
may think this just goes to show that Budweiser is only fit for
throwing away on students acting as guinea pigs or that MIT has been
secretly recruiting vinegar drinkers.  We may know so little of
ourselves that we haven't realised Budweiser has been selling us
vinegar for years - or perhaps there is something about being
physiologically cued by certain information?

On 31 Dec 2008, 23:09, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see as much of the focus on self image as a facade. While self
> image can be and many time is a facade there is such a thing as a self
> image based upon truth identity.  Was Gandhi's self image BS?  Self
> model, self image; where is the difference? In light of apparent
> misleadings run rampant in our society I can see how the first
> inclination leans towards identifying self images as falsehoods.   I'm
> thinking on these lines because I feel the my personal self image is
> not a facade or a marketing strategy and never purport myself to be
> anything over and above that which I am.  Then again in retrospect I
> can see why many times throughout my life I was duped by people who's
> self image was highly based upon BS, while I was thinking, and I still
> do, that there was more integrity in a persons self image.
>
> On Dec 31, 4:20 pm, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It seems to me that asserting a self-image is akin to a marketing
> > campaign, where you are trying to fool a) Yourself and b) Others.
> > I've found it more hepful to build what I think of as a self-model, as
> > opposed to a self-image of myself including my known leanings/
> > limitations.
>
> > Of course, every once in a while one finds the need to market one's
> > self, just don't buy your own BS.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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