I suspect some people are miles away from reality and reality about themselves Lon. I think I'm right in this, but it could be me whistling Dixie or talking to the fairies.
On 1 Jan, 05:46, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > It's an infuriating idea, but one I've accepted, that a person can > never really fully comprehend themselves. As you've said, Johari's > Window. It doesn't help that we are also malleable creatures, subject > to mob thinking, able to contradict ourselves when necessary. When it > comes down to it, we don't so much HAVE self-images, but USE self- > images. > > On Dec 31, 8:06 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We used to use a simple tool called Johari's Window to begin to get at > > these matters. There's what I can see about me, what I don't see > > about me, what others can see of me and what others can't see of me. > > Once we throw in decpetion (a key evolutionary ingredient), it gets > > quite complicated. When it comes to perception, have a think about > > this fairly recent MIT experiment. Kidnap several hundred students. > > Split into two groups. Let the first group try 2 beers - budweiser > > and busweiser with a tad of balsamic vinegar. Tell them about the > > balsamic addition. They nearly all say the beer with vinegar in is > > shite. Use the second group as a control and just give them the two > > "beers" - don't tell them about the vinegar. This group actually > > prefer the bud with balsamic vinegar in it. Wondering it you have a > > new miracle (drinkable Budweiser) on hand, you kidnap another group of > > students. You give this lot the bud and bud plus as well, not telling > > them about the vinegar until after the experiment. This lot say much > > the same as the lot not told about the balsamic vinegar at all. Some > > may think this just goes to show that Budweiser is only fit for > > throwing away on students acting as guinea pigs or that MIT has been > > secretly recruiting vinegar drinkers. We may know so little of > > ourselves that we haven't realised Budweiser has been selling us > > vinegar for years - or perhaps there is something about being > > physiologically cued by certain information? > > > On 31 Dec 2008, 23:09, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't see as much of the focus on self image as a facade. While self > > > image can be and many time is a facade there is such a thing as a self > > > image based upon truth identity. Was Gandhi's self image BS? Self > > > model, self image; where is the difference? In light of apparent > > > misleadings run rampant in our society I can see how the first > > > inclination leans towards identifying self images as falsehoods. I'm > > > thinking on these lines because I feel the my personal self image is > > > not a facade or a marketing strategy and never purport myself to be > > > anything over and above that which I am. Then again in retrospect I > > > can see why many times throughout my life I was duped by people who's > > > self image was highly based upon BS, while I was thinking, and I still > > > do, that there was more integrity in a persons self image. > > > > On Dec 31, 4:20 pm, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It seems to me that asserting a self-image is akin to a marketing > > > > campaign, where you are trying to fool a) Yourself and b) Others. > > > > I've found it more hepful to build what I think of as a self-model, as > > > > opposed to a self-image of myself including my known leanings/ > > > > limitations. > > > > > Of course, every once in a while one finds the need to market one's > > > > self, just don't buy your own BS.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
