On 12 Jan, 23:26, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry Chaz I'm calling rubbish on this one.
>
> > If I give my dog a bone and them take it away from him.  The truth
> > from my perspective is that I'm a wind up merchant.  Are you saying
> > that the dog has no perception of the truth here?  Did he not witness
> > me offer and then take back the bone?
>
> Dog don't have truth because they don't use the word. Why would you
> imagine that the dog cashes this stuff out in "terms" of truth?  Who
> knows what the dog thinks but one thing is for sure he does think "Lee
> is a wind-up merchant".
> You are talking rubbish.
>

    Maybe, but when you KNOW you don't know what the dog thinks, and
THEN you state 'one thing for sure is...' you're just speculating.

>
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> > On 12 Jan, 15:53, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 11, 10:58 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Let me break down what you are saying.
> > > > Truth and God only exist in the human mind.
> > > > Both Truth and God are concepts which are effected by evidence and
> > > > reason.
>
> > > > So if Truth is only in the human mind, then what are reason and
> > > > evidence discovering?  Are you defining truth as a value judgment
> > > > about something "out there"?  Or is truth the something "out there"
> > > > that evidence and reason are trying to discover?
>
> > > I am defining it as the former. Truth is meaningless out side human
> > > perception.
> > > Without us there is no truth as there is no human to conceive of it.
>
> > > > On Jan 11, 10:50 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jan 10, 7:00 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Are they so assured that God does not exist but truth does?
>
> > > > > Neither truth nor god exist outside of the human mind. Both are human
> > > > > concepts which rise or fall against the tides of evidence and reason.
> > > > > The main difference is that god has lost the argument but truth can
> > > > > still be found despite this simple fact.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 10, 11:38 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On 10 Jan., 19:30, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:> 
> > > > > > > Where do Atheists find such passion?
>
> > > > > > > In a love of truth ... and honesty?- Hide quoted text -
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