Having had dozen of dogs over the years I can attest to the fact that they do have a thinking process and sometimes I do know what they are thinking. Example goes as such........I sometimes take left overs and mix it in with the dog food, watching as they wolf it down. After a few days of that when I fill their bowls with dry dog food they walk over to the bowl, sniff briefly, walk away and give me that look. "Not this crap again?" , another is the excitement they show upon my getting ready to out and taking the leash in my hand. This triggers their thoughts about going out for a ride. I currently have four dogs and I see they play games with each other that without thought could never take place, whether it's hide and chase or tug of war. Two of them constantly take things and hide them from the others, this takes time to find and evaluate the right place.
Canine psychology, as with human psychology, is primarily related to the study of the mind. In fact early experiments carried out by notables in the field such as Freud and Pavlov were almost exclusively carried out on animals as it was believed that the thought processes of animal and man did not differ significantly except in their level of complexity. < Lin Stockley Canine, Psychologist http://www.dog-whisperer.co.uk/canine_psychology.htm A dog can only see the world from his dog perspective, and not from a human's. That's why they do best when they're controlled and treated based on the thought process of a canine mind, and not the owner's mind. < http://hubpages.com/hub/How-Dogs-Experience-Emotion On Jan 14, 6:51 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > You don't know what a dog thinks, but you do know that they have no > concept of truth or falseity? > > Well that makles no sense at all really but lets run with the concept > anyway. > > Have you ever played the old throw the ball game with a dog? > > If you have then you'll know that at some point you'll try the old > fake out, that is pretend to throw the ball, to watch the dog bound > away only to eventualy come back to you after failing to find the > ball. > > After a few times at this you will notice that the dog will start to > check out your hands after the throw or the fake out, to see whether > or not you have actualy thrown it, or you are trying to decive him. > > Now I would say that particular dog certianly can concive that you are > capable of deceptive actions, wouldn't you? > > On 13 Jan, 17:45, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 12:12 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 12 Jan, 23:26, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Jan 12, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry Chaz I'm calling rubbish on this one. > > > > > > If I give my dog a bone and them take it away from him. The truth > > > > > from my perspective is that I'm a wind up merchant. Are you saying > > > > > that the dog has no perception of the truth here? Did he not witness > > > > > me offer and then take back the bone? > > > > > Dog don't have truth because they don't use the word. Why would you > > > > imagine that the dog cashes this stuff out in "terms" of truth? Who > > > > knows what the dog thinks but one thing is for sure he does think "Lee > > > > is a wind-up merchant". > > > > You are talking rubbish. > > > > Maybe, but when you KNOW you don't know what the dog thinks, and > > > THEN you state 'one thing for sure is...' you're just speculating. > > > There is not one jot of speculation above. I don't know what a dog > > think but I do not he doesn't have ideas of truth and falsity. > > > > > > On 12 Jan, 15:53, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 10:58 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Let me break down what you are saying. > > > > > > > Truth and God only exist in the human mind. > > > > > > > Both Truth and God are concepts which are effected by evidence and > > > > > > > reason. > > > > > > > > So if Truth is only in the human mind, then what are reason and > > > > > > > evidence discovering? Are you defining truth as a value judgment > > > > > > > about something "out there"? Or is truth the something "out > > > > > > > there" > > > > > > > that evidence and reason are trying to discover? > > > > > > > I am defining it as the former. Truth is meaningless out side human > > > > > > perception. > > > > > > Without us there is no truth as there is no human to conceive of it. > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 10:50 am, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 7:00 pm, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Are they so assured that God does not exist but truth does? > > > > > > > > > Neither truth nor god exist outside of the human mind. Both are > > > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > concepts which rise or fall against the tides of evidence and > > > > > > > > reason. > > > > > > > > The main difference is that god has lost the argument but truth > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > still be found despite this simple fact. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 11:38 am, frantheman <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 Jan., 19:30, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> Where do Atheists find such passion? > > > > > > > > > > > In a love of truth ... and honesty?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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