I'm 66 now. So maybe I am a little bit older than most of you. But when these things happened even I was still a child. After WWII the cold war started between the USA and the Russians. But an economical struggle started as well between the USA one side and France and Germany at the other. That is what created all these problems. The UK was involved at the beginning of the Middle East problem, but in the economic race between Europe and USA they often took the USA part. Of course everything is about greed and economic power. Just how to stop the results now, it is hard to find a solution. The region needs a charismatic person (or two - both sides, like Mandela and De Clercq in South-Africa) to obtain a lasting and serious solution. Now we all become victims of the stubbornness of the Israelian government. Jews all over the world support it. There is no dialogue with them anymore. I was frightened by the agressive reaction of the Antwerp Jews. Even those who were moderated before take now an agressive position. So, even when the Polestines find a charismatic leader, even when Obama would support him openly, we need somebody on the Jews side who did not loose his mind. Love and peace from the old hippie. ----- Original Message ----- From: archytas To: "Minds Eye" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:25 AM Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Gaza
I've often wondered how violence, even of the Belgian kind, is so easy to whip up. There must have been a previous flare up Willy, as many of Flemish blood live in Pembroke. Seeing the destruction Israel has caused in Gaza I want to hear no more excuse from anyone. All involved, even the innocents, are to some extent responsible for disgusting, unacceptable behaviour - yet beyond this one wonders just what foul foreign policy is really involved. I can take no side and would like to know more about how these sides, even in Willi's peaceful country arise. I suspect the West is too far up its won foreign policy issues in this area to be able to help. I suspect the Brits created Israel in order to reconquer the Middle East with the French and thus pay the US back with oil money. The US was too greedy to allow this and stepped in directly. Women weeping over dead children of whatever ethnicity are irrelevant in this view. The Scots are less "Scottish" than I can ever remember, but we are much more likely to vote for independence than over before. We are suffering "white flight" from England as its middle classes notice the growing proportion of "Muslim-coloured faces" - the English are now building defences on our side of Hadrian's Wall! They have, of course, already stolen most of our oil and gas. On 19 Jan, 13:57, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > People always fear what they do not understand > > On 14 jan, 17:53, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ok, I'm probably being hopelessly optimistic. I take Chris's tongue-in- > > cheek warning about forum grenades seriously - and the Arab-Israeli > > issue IS a grenade - an atomic grenade! > > > I see and recognise the validity of the arguments from both sides. I'd > > like to read some of what the people who post here (whose opinions and > > intellects I really respect) think. I do have one request - if anyone > > feels the urge to flame on the usual themes of holocaust denial, the > > Jews are responsible for everything wrong with the world, etc., please > > do it somewhere else. > > > I'm posting this link (even though I wouldn't agree with everything > > the writer states) because I think it's not badly argued - just to get > > the ball rolling:http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/hamas-is-one... > > > Francis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
