Good question.

If the real thing is 'a positive end result' in whatever feild you are
working in, then surley there is no differance between a placebo and
'the real thing'?

On 29 Jan, 01:08, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm a little late to this discussion.  Only read the last few posts.
> Isn't the placebo effect just as genuine as the real thing?  And can
> the real thing be negated by negative thinking?  If so, is there
> really a "real thing" or just the placebo effect.
>
> On Jan 28, 10:57 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That's the most basic interpretation, but here's a better explanation.
> > If you wake up in the morning and think to yourself, "Today is a sh*tty
> > day", lo and behold, it is.
>
> > Placebo effect lets patients take sugar pills thinking "This is going to
> > cure me!", and lo and behold, it does. It's well documented.
>
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Correct me if I am wrong Lee, but what I perceive your post as saying
> > > is that, IF one wakes up in the morning all sour puss and ornery then
> > > "that" is a reflection of that person's subconscious mind which leads
> > > to adverse results throughout the day. Conversely one that awakes in a
> > > jubilant frame of mind experiences more positive occurrences resultant
> > > of the jubilant subconscious.
>
> > > On Jan 28, 9:53 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Well seeing as you asked so nice, and have stopped your normal shity
> > > > attacking routine, then I'll gladly repeat myself for you.
>
> > > > The example I gave about waking up in the morning was to highlight,
> > > > how you feel can affect your day to day life.  It was in direct
> > > > response to your bullshit comment, I was trying to help you see
> > > > through the bullshit, as you asked.
>
> > > > But I've told you that three times already.
>
> > > > Try this one then.
>
> > > > The placebo effect is a well known example of how what's in your head
> > > > can affect the workings of your body.  Do you disagree?
>
> > > > On 28 Jan, 15:00, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > You are just being silly. I know to whom and to what I was
> > > > > responding.
> > > > > Slip made a statement about "...Joseph Murphy (1898-1981)
> > > > > Prosperity writer extraordinaire DR. JOSEPH MURPHY wrote, taught,
> > > > > counseled... "
> > > > > My concern was to respond to that. It is called "keeping to the
> > > > > thread". You came back with, quite frankly, some nonsense, about
> > > > > waking up in the morning, which was completely off topic.
> > > > > Even though this was of no relevance to the topic, I asked what was
> > > > > the point of it and you failed to answer that.
> > > > > Give it up!
>
> > > > > On Jan 28, 1:31 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Sorry Chazy, but you are wrong.
>
> > > > > Oh booh hoo!!
>
> > > > > ......s day, which in turn you decided to not answer directly
>
> > > > > > any of it, but choose rather to subject me to a round of the old 
> > > > > > game
> > > > > > 'whats wrong with your life then Lee'.
>
> > > > > Is that a real quote or a figment of your won imagination?
>
> > > > > > Why Chaz do we have to go through this every single time we try to
> > > > > > communcate?
>
> > > > > I had not noticed. Maybe you are imagining things?
>
> > > > > > Rest assured, I did not get mixed up anywhere, do you get it now, do
> > > > > > you understand, have I made myself clear to you?
>
> > > > > You have made the fact of your own confusion crystal clear.
> > > > > Did you have a point when talking about getting up in the morning, or
> > > > > not?- Hide quoted text -
>
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