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That makes this topic ad nauseum. Smug
and satisfied is ad hominem. / Chris Jenkins
Smug and satisfied is ad hominem???? Just goes to show how.... biased
and bigoted some moderators can get, especially when someone disagrees
with them.... Now, stating that this topic doesn't have "merit"...
that's ad hominem.... as well as being self-assuming and feigning
intellectual superiority....
Ad hominen and ad nauseaum.... wow... two Latin phrases in one
posting.....do you know any others, Chris?
You know Chris.... there are whole web pages dedicated to so-called
Logical or (in most cases, actually) Rhetorical fallacies....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
With a few minutes reading.... almost anyone... can learn some
definitions and spout off some words as if they know what they are
talking about....
The difference is that "some" people... like Chazwin... have actually
read the original sources where those latin-named "devices" came from,
and much more.
You tell me, Chris..... would you say that you, yourself, have read
(or know) as much as Chazwin?... the guy has a Phd and one or more
Masters degrees in diverse areas... get real, Chris. (not that I
credit Phd's all that much, myself... I have a joke about that, you
may have heard it)
How about Kierkecraig?... Or, although I have only gathered the least
about him, how about Ian?
Talk about being smug and satisfied.... let's add self assuming and
feiging intellectual superiority, to that..... and (in my opinion)
that isn't an ad hominem attack.... it is a factual, accurate
observation.
I guess I'm just fishing for a "banning".... but I won't make it too
easy for you Chris..... I think I will make it my goal to show you up
in your ... faults or lack of learning or preparation..... wherever
and whenever I can....shouldn't be too hard....
nominal9
On Feb 19, 12:18 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been participating on threads that have merit. This one doesn't,
> except for your mangling of the lyrics to Pink Floyd. The rules of the
> group are posted, as are the disciplinary guidelines. We already
> talked about this last year. That makes this topic ad nauseum. Smug
> and satisfied is ad hominem.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Well.... Look what the cat dragged in..
> > If it isn't Chris Jenkins?
> > So, do you and Kierkecraig care to "speak to the issue"? Or are you
> > just going to sit there, smug and satisfied, and stand pat...?
> > I will let you take the discussion, if any, in whatever direction you
> > and the others like.
> > nominal9
> > On Feb 19, 11:26 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> And the first part, known separately as "The Happiest Days of Our
> >> Lives", is as follows:
>
> >> Well, when we grew up and went to school,
> >> There were certain teachers,
> >> Who would hurt the children in any way they could,
> >> By pouring their derision,
> >> Upon anything we did,
> >> Exposing every weakness,
> >> However carefully hidden by the kids.
>
> >> But in (but in) the town it was well known,
> >> When they got home at night,
> >> Their fat and psychopathic wives would thrash them,
> >> Within inches of their lives.
>
> >> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:20 AM, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > Actually, Slip Disc....
> >> > the "official" lyrics to the song were as follows....
> >> >http://www.pink-floyd-lyrics.com/html/another-brick-2-wall.html
> >> > Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 (Waters) 3:56
>
> >> > We don't need no education
> >> > We dont need no thought control
> >> > No dark sarcasm in the classroom
> >> > Teachers leave them kids alone
> >> > Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
> >> > All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
> >> > All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
>
> >> > We don't need no education
> >> > We dont need no thought control
> >> > No dark sarcasm in the classroom
> >> > Teachers leave them kids alone
> >> > Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
> >> > All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
> >> > All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
>
> >> > "Wrong, Do it again!"
> >> > "If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you
> >> > have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
> >> > "You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"....
>
> >> > nominal9
>
> >> > On Feb 19, 11:08 am, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Slip Disc:
>
> >> >> Chaz
> >> >> frequently committed crimes against other people's rights and
> >> >> priviledges. / Vamadevananda
>
> >> >> You are correct, it was Vamadevananda who made the "crime" assertion.
> >> >> My apologies to you Slip Disc for forgetting in the moment of writing
> >> >> my post. As you may recall, I replied to both of you together, at
> >> >> first, and when I later replied to Ornamental mind, wherein I
> >> >> mistakenly attributed the "crime" assertion to you, I had forgotten
> >> >> which one of you had made it. Again, my apologies. You have your right
> >> >> to your own opinion, in any case.
>
> >> >> Fact is, if I were to address
> >> >> you in Chazwin style you most likely would be "offended" by all the
> >> >> expletives directed towards your misinterpretation of my post, which
> >> >> could also be considered effrontery. / Slip Disc
>
> >> >> Oh yeah, I know... I've been on the receiving end of some of
> >> >> Chazwin's... "disdainful ridicule" (?), myself. I think it has
> >> >> something to do with the "English" or "British" schoolmaster (and
> >> >> other such people) style... It may be a little bit after your own
> >> >> time, but Chazwin reminds me reminds me of that Pink Floyd song "We
> >> >> Don't Need No
> >> >> Education"....http://www.hotlyrics.net/lyrics/P/Pink_Floyd/We_Don_t_Need_No_Educati...
>
> >> >> (helicopter in background)
>
> >> >> (beat)
>
> >> >> When we grew up and went to school
> >> >> There were certain teachers who would hurt the children any way they
> >> >> could
>
> >> >> A boring ready region upon anything we did exposing every weakness how
> >> >> the kid did bye the kid (laughter)
>
> >> >> Out in the middle of nowhere they were home at night with friends,
> >> >> psychopathic wads would flash down with a inches of their lives
>
> >> >> (beat)
>
> >> >> We don't need no education
> >> >> We don't need no thoughts controlled
> >> >> There is no sarcasm in the class room
> >> >> Teachers leave them kids alone
> >> >> (yells) hey teachers leave them kids alone!
>
> >> >> All alone you're just eight whether you break it no more.
>
> >> >> All alone you're just eight whether u break it no more.
>
> >> >> (british kids)
> >> >> We don't need no education
> >> >> We don't need no thoughts controlled
> >> >> There is no sarcasm in the class room
> >> >> Teachers leave them kids alone
> >> >> (yells) hey teachers leave those kids alone!
>
> >> >> All alone ur just a... Whether u break it no more.
> >> >> All alone ur just a... Whether u break it no more.
>
> >> >> (beat)
>
> >> >> If u dont eat ur meat u kant have ne pudding
> >> >> How kan u have any pudding if u dont eat ur meat
>
> >> >> If u dont eat ur meat u kant have ne pudding
> >> >> How kan u have any pudding if u dont eat ur meat
>
> >> >> If u dont eat ur meat u kant have ne pudding
> >> >> How kan u have any pudding if u dont eat ur meat
>
> >> >> (kids screaming)
> >> >> (beeping)
>
> >> >> That's Chazwin, there.... yelling "If u dont eat ur meat u kant have
> >> >> ne pudding
> >> >> How kan u have any pudding if u dont eat ur meat"....
>
> >> >> Now, you see? That's how I would.... and do.... handle a likeable
> >> >> rogue like Chazwin.... he can take it..... not with censorship,
> >> >> though... never with censorship.
> >> >> Now, of course.... I think that, on this board..... the actual
> >> >> "teachers" are really Kierkecraig, Chris Jenkins and whoever else
> >> >> happens to be a "moderator"....
> >> >> nominal9
>
> >> >> On Feb 18, 7:43 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > I was replying to Slip Disc's "crime" assertion, above. << Nominal9
>
> >> >> > Crime assertion? I merely pointed out the obvious which is well known
> >> >> > concerning Chazwin's forum demeanor. Fact is, if I were to address
> >> >> > you in Chazwin style you most likely would be "offended" by all the
> >> >> > expletives directed towards your misinterpretation of my post, which
> >> >> > could also be considered effrontery.
>
> >> >> > Again I reiterate: Chazwin was vulgar and out of line with Minds Eye
> >> >> > decorum. (that is not a dictum of criminal activity)
>
> >> >> > However, if that is not enough for you, I will cite some pertinent
> >> >> > points from the Minds Eye Posting Guidelines.
>
> >> >> > From Posting Guidelines
>
> >> >> > 5. Bannings
>
> >> >> > All decisions regarding disciplinary actions up to and including
> >> >> > banishment from the group are discussed thoroughly among the
> >> >> > moderators before any decision is made. None of the moderators take it
> >> >> > upon themselves to discipline a member of the group. Disciplinary
> >> >> > actions include, but are not limited to: warnings, return to moderated
> >> >> > status, banishment from the group, and ETERNAL DAMNATION.
>
> >> >> > **************************************************
> >> >> > In other words Nom9, don't crimp on me because I didn't ban anyone!
>
> >> >> > 3. Etiquette & Principles
>
> >> >> > Aggressive/bullying posts are unwelcome. If you've had a bad day, go
> >> >> > and take your stress out elsewhere.
>
> >> >> > (Chaz has gone elsewhere and so should you take your Slip attack
> >> >> > elsewhere too, it's baseless)
>
> >> >> > Avoid swearing/cussing, unless it is absolutely pertinent to the
> >> >> > discussion at hand. Sometimes it happens naturally in the flow of a
> >> >> > sentence -- and I'm guilty of it -- but there are many far more
> >> >> > creative ways to express yourself.
>
> >> >> > (I've never found any of Chaz putrid verbalization to be pertinent to
> >> >> > any discussion.)
>
> >> >> > It's not up to me, I'm just an observer!
>
> >> >> > On Feb 18, 11:18 am, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > Owners of groups determine the standards by fiat. Start your own
> >> >> > > group
> >> >> > > with your standards if it is important to you or find one that
> >> >> > > matches
> >> >> > > your tenets. There is no true democracy in a Google Group. /
> >> >> > > ornamentalmind
>
> >> >> > > I agree with you, Orn.... I was replying to Slip Disc's "crime"
> >> >> > > assertion, above. As to Google's policies... well that depends on
> >> >> > > Google and on the "consumer" rights and responsibilities that it
> >> >> > > grants to its "users".... but that includes the Group Owners, I
> >> >> > > would
> >> >> > > think... Point being, if Goolgle happens to be a bit more
> >> >> > > "enlightened" (my view of it) that the Group Owners as to any or
> >> >> > > other
> >> >> > > censroship issue, then Google can make it's own countervailing
> >> >> > > judgement....
> >> >> > > But ultimately it does get down to a question of the "company you
> >> >> > > keep"... I've been keeping company with Chazwin, over on that other
> >> >> > > Group....
> >> >> > > nominal9
>
> >> >> > > On Feb 18, 10:54 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]>
> >> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > nom, it is neither a right nor a wrong issue. It is a what/where
> >> >> > > > issue. What sort of group do you want to be a member of? Where on
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > > internet do you want to join?
>
> >> >> > > > Owners of groups determine the standards by fiat. Start your own
> >> >> > > > group
> >> >> > > > with your standards if it is important to you or find one that
> >> >> > > > matches
> >> >> > > > your tenets. There is no true democracy in a Google Group.
>
> >> >> > > > On Feb 18, 7:46 am, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > > Vamadevananda,
> >> >> > > > > I appreciate and respect
>
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