In some of the crasser gutters I have found some relationship between begging and gratuitous offers of sex - Eros and other ideal Greek forms perhaps easing the innocence I use as a shield (think of Batfink Gabby - I'm pretty hopeless). Monogamy sounds a bit like something one might find trying to swim in treacle. This said, I would have made a pretty poor bonobo or chimp and have considerable respect for pair-bonding and explorations of equality that may move us away from selfish forms.
On 7 May, 12:54, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought you had travelled the world, Chris. And what did you do > there? Went to the local movie theatres? Americans and how they live > their belief in ideals. *sigh* > > OK, let me translate "to please others" for you. In international > terms it means "begging" and is strictly unerotic. > > On 7 Mai, 06:45, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In classical psychology, it's the Madonna-Whore complex. In modern > > culture, Ludacris calls out for "a Lady in the streets but a freak in > > the bed!" The clash of puritanical public values with animalistic > > private sexual desires creates a conflict that men (and less often > > women) who are not honest with themselves and/or their partners often > > express extra-relationally. In the ideal Eros relationship (ever > > IMHO), honest communication and a desire to please the other allows > > for mutual open exploration of the poles of desire, negating the > > desire to engage in such dalliances. Despite a variety of cultural > > relational phenotypes to choose from, I believe monogamy to be the > > Eros ideal. > > > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:06 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Somewhat over-long as I remember Chris. An old French mate of mine > > > kept two mistresses - one who treated him like a mother. He was > > > somewhat surprised that I didn't approve, even suspecting I was in > > > love with his wife because of this. Sadly, I was only in love with > > > her cooking and brilliant sense of humour. He was a very gentle soul, > > > except when it came to arresting blaggers known to use violence and > > > intimidation on women. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
