Slip, can you imagine for a moment that I've gone a step beyond all of the spiritual teaching of the past? That I have studied many different teachings, found the common ground, and taken a step beyond with their combined knowledge as the base. That I have eliminated all the things that are irreconcilable. That I know what I'm talking about. I am not angry or depressed. I Live in joy of Life. I know we need to make a change in the way of mankind. I know that we can make that change by establishing a common recognition of the source of all the spiritual beliefs. It is time for mankind to evolve to be a truly spiritual being, and I'm trying to show you the way. All of the things that are being said to me are a part of the knowledge that I have studied and gone beyond.
peace & Love On May 7, 9:34 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > It is a long and difficult road, the road to Utopia, with each step > overshadowed by obstacle and peril. It is easy for old souls to > perceive the possibility with a subconscious imbued with previous life > experience (based on my belief in soul). I believe Utopia is within a > parallel and others are already there, I believe that I had visited > there briefly within my coma experience. I suddenly awoke from it the > day after I was given the last rites. I guess one day I will have to > share the complete experience. I believe that existing in this world > as a human being is a powerful statement and testimony to something > greater and to think that this is the only place is foolish. > As I posted to Psk elsewhere......there is a great deal more to life > than mere physical existence on planet earth. There is a cosmological > aspect to all things. The earth is not just a place, it is part of a > whole, a system in which various forms of energy coexist. The simple > fact that we can think should bring about a new awareness of something > else going on as thought is not tangible, cannot be packaged or seen. > Thought is only relayed verbally, written or via technology, and even > then it may not be accurately received and understood. There is spirit > and soul to consider, parallel universes that present the aspect, that > our lives here may have purpose somewhere else. There is energy out > there and around us that we cannot see. Quantum physics, quantum > fields, metaphysics, psychics, clairvoyants, savants and mystical > phenomena abound. Simple examination of human history starting with > our primordial beginnings reveal that there is the progression of > intelligence. It is the collective mind that has throughout history > overcome obstacles and achieved the so called 'impossible'. History > shows that collective determination can make anything happen. Much of > it all we can only glimpse on occasion within our dreams but through > our imagination we conjure up that which we make manifest in our > conscious reality. > I'm with you all the way, tinker, as far as the dream but in reality > it doesn't bother me in the least that the world does not simply fall > in line. Each will have the consequence of their personal life as a > result of their consciousness. I create my Utopia, here and now, in > my world, as much as it is possible and I find comfort in knowing that > I am part of the greater realm, the cosmos. While I can be part of a > collective, I don't have to be in order to make things happen, to > effect change and alter my perspectives around them. Don't be > bothered by the lack of interest, the pessimism of youth or the > quandary of the world, we have to deal with the nature of man. Put > out your good energy and let it be like a seed that takes time to > germinate. I remember someone approaching me a year later to tell me > they just got it, now they understand. You talk about spiritual > selling and not realizing that you are selling something that is > completely foreign to most people. It will take a great deal of time > and more lifetimes than yours before the concept reaches global > acceptance. There are very few people you will meet who can carry on > some of the conversations we have in here. As I can see you have, I > also get fatigued with trying to sell the dream. > > On May 7, 7:01 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Others have talked about it, but I think none have come close to the > > in depth discovery and understanding of Joseph Campbell. > > In ‘The Masks of God’ he documented it to have existed as an archetype > > in the subconscious mind of mankind since the beginning of > > civilization. > > The Dream of Utopia has been the guide of mankind’s development. It’s > > the root of benevolence and philanthropy. It inspires science to > > realize dreams. > > > The p.s. kid says, “What’s the Point, and I believe he’s sincere and > > not just trying to stir up shit. > > I was walking down the street and a young dude asked for a cigarette. > > “No man, I don’t smoke.” And then half jokingly, “Don’t you know that > > stuff’ll stunt your growth?” he looked long and hard into my eyes, and > > I like to think he saw a true bit of concern. I saw true hopelessness > > as he said, “I don’t care.” > > It’s not the first time I’ve seen it in our young people. I hate to > > say it but it’s almost common. The rare ones you see that are > > optimistic most likely have that edge of superiority which supports > > greed and allows deceit for one’s own good. > > > I’ve been hot on the trail of the dream of utopia for thirty seven > > years. At the age of twenty I got commissioned to the mission from God > > when I was sitting in a jail cell looking at 25 to Life. I found this > > poem and then the little New Testament with the red words of the man > > pounding on the Kingdom being at hand. > > > There is Magic in believing > > Let us keep our faith aglow > > The tomorrow we’re awaiting > > May be closer than we know. > > > There is magic in believing > > Let us walk in humble trust > > The shadows cannot linger > > Dawn is near and come it must. > > > The sun a constant miracle > > Has never failed to rise > > Impossible is not word > > That God would recognize > > > I’ve been through all the crap the religions sell for you to believe > > in. They’re all selling escapism. They all deny Life as being the > > reason for our existence. “It’s something greater,” they say. > > And every single one of them says it from and with the force of Life > > that they claim to be at least second rate if not totally irrelevant. > > Fact; Life is here and now. > > Fact; Higher forms of Life have a brain. > > Fact; Brains produce energy that we call the mind. > > Fact; The human mind is capable of imagining/believing anything. > > NO fact; Any spiritual belief of any person on Earth. There is not one > > shred of evidence, only believing. There are no two dogmas that > > coincide and the individual’s belief, even following the same dogma, > > is as varied as the individuals. > > > So, who’s right? Is it one out of the jumbled clusterfuck of spiritual > > beliefs? Or is it the Fact, that Life IS here and now. > > The ‘Dream of Utopia’ points at Life, not some spiritual other shit. > > That’s why I ask if it’s dead. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
