some things are bigger than planet earth kid...and spiritual
experience is one of them. i think it is refreshing that people are
'debating' these things, and hope that someday you may realize that u
have a spirit, and the importance of such...

On May 9, 6:15 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> look at you all arguing about spirituality.. and religion and stuff..
> now tell me  is religion or spiritual enlightenment going to save the
> souls of people stuck in civil war stricken areas of Africa ...
>
> On May 9, 7:30 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
> > On May 8, 7:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > We do have a whole lot of common understanding, and the same basic
> > > goal in mind.
> > > One difference we have is that you think the spirit/soul is other than
> > > and/or beyond Life, ego/self in tow. I think it is an extension 'of'
> > > Life, and when the Life ceases the life force returns to the
> > > 'collective life force' free of any ego/self. And that makes
> > > absolutely no difference in the idea I'm presenting.<<<Tinker
>
> > This is our difference, and one that has been covered in many other
> > posts.  I feel the soul is unique to the individual and does not
> > return to some "soul pool".  When life ceases the Spirit ceases but
> > the Soul continues on, retaining human qualities.  The experiences of
> > de javu, past life regressions and dreams of previous life
> > experiences, for me, all point to the soul experiences, now and in the
> > past.  If my soul was new in 1200 BC then I would have a great deal of
> > wisdom at birth through now, as some people exhibit.  If it is as you
> > say, what determines the issuance of talents, intelligence, skills
> > etc, it seems like a wild card and inconsistent with your
> > assertion>>"There is a purpose to Life though. It is for progress of
> > the intelligence that is the Life force."  (may 6 in what's the
> > point)
> > I would rather think that Einstein's soul exists today in the form of
> > a young brilliant physicist or scientist somewhere on the planet or
> > parallel universe and not that his soul became part of a great ocean
> > of energy.  Why was I born with a multitude of talent and not my
> > brother?
>
> > > The other thing where we diverge is that you believe mankind can be
> > > taught or will learn to come together by the means of religious (type)
> > > teaching/learning of the right way to behave.<<<Tinker
>
> > I haven't a clue where you get that idea but considering its vagueness
> > you will have to explain further.
>
> > > The way of Society can be changed with a simple mechanical 
> > > switch.<<<Tinker
>
> > Mechanical Switch?  Your getting really hazy!  Are you talking
> > eugenics?  How would you change people like 
> > this>>>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519548,00.html
>
> > > That switch would be the common understanding of the source of our
> > > spiritual connection in the mind, recognized as mankind's common 
> > > link.<<<Tinker
>
> > Well how would you go about accomplishing the "common understanding"?
> > By what method would you get people to recognize humanity's common
> > link?
> > Preaching? Teaching? Lecturing? U Tubing? TV ads?  Flyers, posters,
> > bumber stickers?  Minds Eye?
> > How would you go about it?
>
> > > "That I know what I'm talking about", was a part of several things
> > > forming a concept. I was asking you to suspend your beliefs for a
> > > moment and consider my point of view. <<<Tinker
>
> > It still remains the same, you are forming a concept from several
> > things you believe and projecting it as new.
> > I don't have any real beliefs, they are just ideas, thoughts, concepts
> > derived from personal experience and equally challenged by others as
> > are all the other ideas and concepts.  That is why I always say "I
> > think".
>
> > >I am 'trying to show you the way' we Can change the way of Society
> > > 'Now', and that is not by the methods of selling/preaching/teaching.
>
> > > Thanks for working with me brother, I Love you.<<<Tinker
>
> > You don't have to thank me for anything.  I've never implied or
> > inferred that we can change people by selling, preaching or teaching.
> > However, in general conversation when topic leans, one might begin to
> > share the ideal.  I change the people around me by "example" and they
> > change others with their change and so there is a ramification of
> > change.  Some people just don't want to change, and that is the main
> > problem.
>
> > Now I can send you a starter kit, How to Change the World part 1, for
> > just 3 easy payments of just $19.95, plus shipping and handling.  If
> > your not completely satisfied with your order just return it for a
> > full refund, no questions asked, other than, why didn't you like it?
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