On May 8, 7:35 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> We do have a whole lot of common understanding, and the same basic
> goal in mind.
> One difference we have is that you think the spirit/soul is other than
> and/or beyond Life, ego/self in tow. I think it is an extension 'of'
> Life, and when the Life ceases the life force returns to the
> 'collective life force' free of any ego/self. And that makes
> absolutely no difference in the idea I'm presenting.<<<Tinker
This is our difference, and one that has been covered in many other
posts. I feel the soul is unique to the individual and does not
return to some "soul pool". When life ceases the Spirit ceases but
the Soul continues on, retaining human qualities. The experiences of
de javu, past life regressions and dreams of previous life
experiences, for me, all point to the soul experiences, now and in the
past. If my soul was new in 1200 BC then I would have a great deal of
wisdom at birth through now, as some people exhibit. If it is as you
say, what determines the issuance of talents, intelligence, skills
etc, it seems like a wild card and inconsistent with your
assertion>>"There is a purpose to Life though. It is for progress of
the intelligence that is the Life force." (may 6 in what's the
point)
I would rather think that Einstein's soul exists today in the form of
a young brilliant physicist or scientist somewhere on the planet or
parallel universe and not that his soul became part of a great ocean
of energy. Why was I born with a multitude of talent and not my
brother?
> The other thing where we diverge is that you believe mankind can be
> taught or will learn to come together by the means of religious (type)
> teaching/learning of the right way to behave.<<<Tinker
I haven't a clue where you get that idea but considering its vagueness
you will have to explain further.
> The way of Society can be changed with a simple mechanical switch.<<<Tinker
Mechanical Switch? Your getting really hazy! Are you talking
eugenics? How would you change people like this>>>
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519548,00.html
> That switch would be the common understanding of the source of our
> spiritual connection in the mind, recognized as mankind's common
> link.<<<Tinker
Well how would you go about accomplishing the "common understanding"?
By what method would you get people to recognize humanity's common
link?
Preaching? Teaching? Lecturing? U Tubing? TV ads? Flyers, posters,
bumber stickers? Minds Eye?
How would you go about it?
>
> "That I know what I'm talking about", was a part of several things
> forming a concept. I was asking you to suspend your beliefs for a
> moment and consider my point of view. <<<Tinker
It still remains the same, you are forming a concept from several
things you believe and projecting it as new.
I don't have any real beliefs, they are just ideas, thoughts, concepts
derived from personal experience and equally challenged by others as
are all the other ideas and concepts. That is why I always say "I
think".
>I am 'trying to show you the way' we Can change the way of Society
> 'Now', and that is not by the methods of selling/preaching/teaching.
>
> Thanks for working with me brother, I Love you.<<<Tinker
You don't have to thank me for anything. I've never implied or
inferred that we can change people by selling, preaching or teaching.
However, in general conversation when topic leans, one might begin to
share the ideal. I change the people around me by "example" and they
change others with their change and so there is a ramification of
change. Some people just don't want to change, and that is the main
problem.
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