"...Posts like Omprem's really do nothing but upset the nice balance
we
have here, which is why you find me sideing with any atheist under
attack. ..." - lee

Well, yes lee, that can be an attraction. I find the more challenging
thing to be finding a way to engage with such extreme views. While on
the one hand, it can be seen as fanatical, on another it is but one of
many many differing levels the human consciousness can move to. It is
neither right nor wrong. Like all other levels, the ‘death’ of the
thing is when the cyclical nature of mind ceases. Even the greatest,
Chandrakirti, Gautama, Nagarjuna etc. knew and were able to discuss
such things while apparently being in such levels ‘bout all the time!
Amazing!



On May 19, 5:00 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been here for around 4 years now, and we have a good mix of
> intelegent people.  Myself I am a religous man, my mate Chris here is
> not.
>
> We can of course talk about many things an often any discourse on
> philosophy will inevitably touch upon the question of God.
>
> As a religous man, I really don't care wheter Chris shares my
> particular faith, or any faith at all, what I care about is that when
> we do talk he is always polite, freindly and willing and able to
> discuss whatever is is we are debateing.
>
> Posts like Omprem's really do nothing but upset the nice balance we
> have here, which is why you find me sideing with any atheist under
> attack.  Then again the same can be said about anybody on this group.
> I like it here and when I witness what amounts to arsey attacks based
> on nowt more than a differance of opinion, then I'm willing and able
> to shout back.
>
> Ultimatly it is enough for to know that Chris and I do not see
> everything entirly eye to eye, but bugger me what a boring world that
> would be if we did huh.
>
> On 19 May, 00:15, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > i cant bash atheism because all i know about it is that its
> > participants do not believe in mans interpretation of 'god'. as far as
> > im concerned, thats the end of the conversation...what else is there
> > to talk about? in the little amount of time i have spent in that
> > unfortunate place called AvC, i have seen circulating statements from
> > both sides that seem to be leading nowhere in particular. even in a
> > place as docile as this, if spiritual experience is mentioned it is
> > often deemed as imagination at work, so there seems to be no purpose
> > of describing these things. i think it may be important for atheists
> > and theists to have these conversations, maybe to vent their views,
> > but really, neither side can prove or disprove their points so i think
> > everybody should kiss and make up. seems sorta like eternal mud
> > wrestling with no end in sight ;-^(
>
> > On May 18, 2:10 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Things I've learned from other groups:
>
> > > 1. When it comes to atheist bashing, it is common. See:
> > > "Atheists Not Fully 
> > > Human"http://www.atheistrev.com/2009/05/atheists-not-fully-human.html
>
> > > 2. As to good books...perhaps even if recommended, those in the UK
> > > couldn't read them, such as:
> > > "Britain's publishers are silenced by Islamist bullies"
>
> > >http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/edwest/blog/2009/05/18/britains_publishe...Hide
> > > quoted text -
>
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