yes...and i am speaking from an ignorant viewpoint...do atheists feel that 'spirit' exists and, if so, what is it? i have been told in this group that my spiritual experiences and OBE's were probably my imagination...of course, this is FAR from accurate, but i would be interested in hearing your interpretation of 'spirit'...
in my opinion, 'god' is not an entity that can be viewed or proven. tell me that you have experienced love, and then prove it to me...see where the problem lies? On May 19, 10:58 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > One of the long standing misconceptions about atheism as a generality is > that atheists "believe" there is no God. While this may be true for some > atheists, it is not a hard and fast rule. Atheism is simply the absence of > belief in a deity. I have no hard core belief that there is no such thing as > a universal deity. I am open to the idea of such. I have simply found no > reason to believe in one. It's primarily the Theists who force such > assumptions to be universally true about Atheists. > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:45 AM, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > although i appreciate your stance in regards to xtians being unable to > > substantiate the existance of their 'god', some atheists have taken > > the approach that if xtians cant give proof, then 'god' does not > > exist. this is far from true imo. if atheists dont want to state > > catagorically that there is no 'god', then their message should be, "i > > dont believe there is a 'god' but i could be wrong."...i have not > > heard that message at all, but have not been in conversation with many > > atheists who are not simply theist bashers, such as exists in AvC. > > > one very simple observation i have is that 'just because one cannot > > prove something, in no way indicates that such does not exist'. i have > > never heard an atheist state this. is this part of your appreciation > > of the 'god' question? > > > On May 19, 10:23 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > 2009/5/18 ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > Things I've learned from other groups: > > > > > 1. When it comes to atheist bashing, it is common. See: > > > > "Atheists Not Fully Human" > > > >http://www.atheistrev.com/2009/05/atheists-not-fully-human.html > > > > Despite being an atheist, I've never really had a problem with people > > > bashing "us". In a sense, all they're bashing is their own inability to > > come > > > up with worthwhile evidence for the existence of their chosen deity. > > You'd > > > think in ~100,000 years of religion -- since the days of *homo sapien > > > neanderthalensis* -- someone would have come up with some good proof. > > > > Back to the point, though... > > > > I am absolutely against any kind of protectionism when it comes to the > > > debate of human ideas. If Cardinal McCormack thinks atheists are less > > than > > > human, then he should say so. Of course, my motives for allowing him to > > say > > > such things aren't pure: I love that the evil old bigot showed the Church > > up > > > for the vile and intolerant institution that it is and always will be. > > > > And remember, in the UK and Irelend these people run our schools... > > > > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
