Would you rather spend your day picking out all of the things in the world that are ugly and you don't like, or paying attention to what you know to be beautiful. It doesn't mean that you deny or repute what in separation is less than beautiful, it means that you choose your own internal environment as one that is more beautiful and harmonious and less stressful, and pay more attention to the bigger picture. <<MB
Well that is exactly what I do as you know from previous posts that I don't really integrate with the external world and focus on the beauty within my personal world. I'm happy because I make the people around me happy and life becomes more beautiful. I did simply bring up the fact that, as you say, what is in separation, the external environment, does harbor that which is less than beautiful. Recognition on my part is not any indication of my personal view or lifestyle. I'm happy to be loved by a great many people and really don't know anyone that hates me, so I guess I must be doing something right. We can effect change by exuding beauty that others can witness, understand and hopefully adopt. On Jul 13, 11:58 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > Living in one's own little word of beauty can be a beautiful fiction. > > Only if we lose our functional relationship with the world. If we can > make that beauty a part of the very fabric of our relatedness in our > lives to our world, it is reality, not fiction. If we can relate to > the world in ways that express beauty while we relate to our families, > do our jobs, develop our relationships, it is not fiction. > > If we see the world as entirely beautiful, what some would see as not > beautiful is simply a matter of their taste and value. Like our > discussion of evil, if what is not beautiful is seen in the wider > context of our entire beautiful life, it becomes part of the whole > beauty. Would you rather spend your day picking out all of the things > in the world that are ugly and you don't like, or paying attention to > what you know to be beautiful. It doesn't mean that you deny or > repute what in separation is less than beautiful, it means that you > choose your own internal environment as one that is more beautiful and > harmonious and less stressful, and pay more attention to the bigger > picture. You don't need to lose touch with reality to accomplish this > state, you just need to be willing to change focus. > > Of course, some of us humans get something out of being stressed and > injured and condemning our experience. Individually, we examine > ourselves to find what that might be. > > On Jul 13, 10:35 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There is always the harsh truth that some people hate those who live > > the life, set the example and present the change to beauty. Hate > > groups thrive on it. Unfortunately there are those who are not > > capable of love and beauty. It's easy to see it all as a wonderful > > conception from one's personal view but in reality and on a global > > scale the reality is contrary. In some sense beauty is still being > > fed to the lions. > > > Living in one's own little word of beauty can be a beautiful fiction. > > > On Jul 13, 9:13 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I agree with Vam, we have to first live it. It transforms the world > > > around us because by living it, others around us are captivated. I > > > have seen corporate cultures drastically change under a new leader > > > (for better and worse.) If we can live like Vam, the influence > > > spreads like the ripples of water created by the entrance of a stone. > > > On and on. Over time, collectively we improve. Expressions like > > > Neil's can be read and followed, like the stone in water also. > > > Sometimes, we keep the thick of it around us, the chaos and clashing > > > of duality by only seeing society as in need of a good straightening, > > > and not living the possibility of more... > > > > On Jul 13, 6:21 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > " ... the real stuff might well lie in straightening our society > > > > out." > > > > > Know what, Neil, let me share with you my most personal of all > > > > beliefs : If I can restore dignity, joy and fearlessness in my > > > > thoughts, words and actions, and retain the goodwill and warmth for > > > > people around me in my heart, and live my life in good faith ... and, > > > > even if I were to succeed at doing so partially ... I would have > > > > offered some " real stuff " to this society, for it to remember what > > > > and how easy it is to lead a straight life, and for it to recall the > > > > great simplicity and happiness we all may once again experience in > > > > living this wondrous existence ! > > > > > That 's perhaps the only romance left in me. And, I 'm glad it 's > > > > there in my wakeful awareness. It keeps me sane, directed and happy. > > > > > On Jul 13, 12:35 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Like Vam I think we have to be able to see beauty in the ordinary. > > > > > There was once something rather beautiful to me on resting on a spade > > > > > after some hard work, sharing a tab with a mate, perhaps rather > > > > > ironically pleased with our efforts and the desultory pay that went > > > > > off home to Mum with enough left over for a few pints in the pub. > > > > > England's "magnificent" draw yesterday with our hapless last wicket > > > > > batters lasting half-an-hour against the might of Australia after a > > > > > day of probably the most stupid shots ever played by better players > > > > > had a certain beauty. Others might wonder what the five days of > > > > > boredom were about, until the always winning Aussies saw there efforts > > > > > rendered futile, dashed on the rocks of Burnley and Indian (Monty > > > > > Panesar Vam) pride as the clock ticked down in the depths of Wales. > > > > > Neither of our guys knew one end of the bat from the other and a Welsh > > > > > poet was suggesting the stumps be burned so that the finest dust of > > > > > England would remain forever in Wales. And then the clock ticked past > > > > > a heady triumph to sour Australian tears and the victory of an English > > > > > draw. > > > > > > I suspect beauty is too often restricted to our triumphs over > > > > > adversity and the real stuff might well lie in straightening our > > > > > society out. > > > > > > On 13 July, 03:48, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Molly, I 've indicated that beauty is what it does to me, in the > > > > > > several domains within me. Let me list a couple of instances : > > > > > > > I see beauty when I see a child leading his parent on the road, > > > > > > finger > > > > > > in palm, joy and cheer in his eyes. Or, in the early morning, when > > > > > > the > > > > > > husband is pulling at his bycycle with wife seated on the carrier > > > > > > seat > > > > > > behind him, both off to work, to deal with the demands of the day, > > > > > > for > > > > > > themselves and their children. Or, in the attitude : I want nothing > > > > > > from you, what can I do for you ? Or, when a person walks away with > > > > > > light, hope and self - belief in his heart, after a conversing with > > > > > > a > > > > > > ' wise ' one. Or, when I ' see ' an Einstein arrive at an > > > > > > integrating > > > > > > discovery, which includes and explains the details ... > > > > > > > The ' sight ' unclouded by ego - want - emotions is beautiful ! > > > > > > > On Jul 12, 11:19 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I can agree that what we call the beauty industry is merely > > > > > > > merchandising to enhance appearance, and has little to do with > > > > > > > real > > > > > > > beauty. How do we recognize true beauty when we see it? > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 8:02 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What entertains many can be ruthlessly boring, and the beauty > > > > > > > > industry > > > > > > > > certainly conforms with ruthlessness. Scientists are rather > > > > > > > > prone to > > > > > > > > bemoan those waiting for the blow job from god so routinely > > > > > > > > expected > > > > > > > > to underlie their work in elegance, beauty and perfect form. > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > beautiful moment is not boring. > > > > > > > > > On 11 July, 03:35, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I believe the answer is in your "deviant compulsion". It can > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > compelled by the force that is Love, but it is deviated or > > > > > > > > > twisted > > > > > > > > > from the "patient and kind" that we recognize as the way of > > > > > > > > > Love. > > > > > > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 7:50 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is it really love in those cases, Lee, or something more > > > > > > > > > > along the > > > > > > > > > > lines of deviant compulsion? Both examples would certainly > > > > > > > > > > fall > > > > > > > > > > outside of the "love is patient, love is kind..." > > > > > > > > > > definition. > > > > > > > > > > > I think that love and beauty have much in common, as they > > > > > > > > > > move us in > > > > > > > > > > spirit, or to higher consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 5:12 am, "[email protected]" > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Surly any type of love is a beautiful thing? Umm unless > > > > > > > > > > > it is > > > > > > > > > > > peadophilic love, or love of violence. Okay okay scracth > > > > > > > > > > > that one, > > > > > > > > > > > bad Idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah Dipu what do you mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 July, 00:15, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > International communication can be very difficult. Can > > > > > > > > > > > > you please > > > > > > > > > > > > explain how your reply to Molly's post is relevant?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are replying to a post that poses pertinent wording > > > > > > > > > > > > about beauty > > > > > > > > > > > > and concept but which excludes any reference to love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do you mean by "any type of love"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please explain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 2:16 pm, dipu banerjee > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any type of love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/10/09, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boring beauty. Quiet a concept. Can beauty be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > boring? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 9, 9:03 am, archytas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Einstein and others drew relativity from obscure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiments to glean > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the size of molecules and the movement of pollen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > grains in solution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beauty tends to fit with experiment and eventual > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > communication beyond > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the almost non-verbal beholder's eye. It may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well bore most people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and end up being taught in school chemistry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 July, 20:23, Molly Brogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps another case of beauty being in the eye > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the beholder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Music of a particular artist may require > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relativity of taste. Music > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as an art form, > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
