My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the size
of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 million
people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said earlier
it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I think
english is a foreign language to me.

But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and then I
have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story  trying to make
it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I will
just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but I am
not there yet   long way to go..

Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun,
Allan
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing.  It may be time to reread this
> classic.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld
>
> dj
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm
> massive
> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air breathable
> and
> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a
> little
> > electricity.
> >
> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable  and in
> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . Material
> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire production
> on
> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be
> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is possible
> to
> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just what
> you
> > harvest.
> >
> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays Space
> SF
> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not
> practical
> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but impractical
> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can be
> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate earths
> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal solution
> with
> > its mineral rich diversification .
> >
> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are mostly
> made
> > of ammonia now figure that one.
> > Allan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t I? 
> >>
> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be
> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/
> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, the
> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By this
> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and
> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like mini-
> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it happening
> >> before we exhaust earth.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:>
> For
> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me.
> >> >
> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid belt.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases needed
> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you really
> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the resultant
> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a propellant,
> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the technology
> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going.
> >> >
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining
> >> >
> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the foreseeable
> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents
> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is a
> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics of
> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make such
> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred years.
> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical objections,
> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is already
> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the area
> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human
> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of
> >> > weightlessness.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of development
> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find disquieting.
> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness and our
> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as more
> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. We
> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will.
> >> >
> >> > Francis
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > (
> >  )
> > I_D Allan
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>


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