I know this is going to sound weird ,, but in writing even a bad story how do you end it? It just seems to keep going on and on. Allan
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:35 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I can believe that, you almost always have to have some sort of conflict to > keep people interested. > Allan > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Just remember to load it full of sex and desperate fights with aliens. >> Niven was a Dr. of physics and he had to do that to get his stuff >> published. It's what the people want; might as well give it to them. >> >> dj >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the >> size >> > of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 >> million >> > people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said >> earlier >> > it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I >> think >> > english is a foreign language to me. >> > >> > But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and then >> I >> > have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story trying to >> make >> > it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I will >> > just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but >> I am >> > not there yet long way to go.. >> > >> > Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun, >> > Allan >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing. It may be time to reread this >> >> classic. >> >> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld >> >> >> >> dj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm >> >> > massive >> >> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air >> breathable >> >> > and >> >> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a >> >> > little >> >> > electricity. >> >> > >> >> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable >> and >> >> > in >> >> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . >> Material >> >> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire >> production >> >> > on >> >> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be >> >> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is >> possible >> >> > to >> >> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just >> what >> >> > you >> >> > harvest. >> >> > >> >> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays >> >> > Space SF >> >> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not >> >> > practical >> >> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but >> >> > impractical >> >> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can >> be >> >> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate >> earths >> >> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal >> solution >> >> > with >> >> > its mineral rich diversification . >> >> > >> >> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are >> mostly >> >> > made >> >> > of ammonia now figure that one. >> >> > Allan >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t I? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be >> >> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/ >> >> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, >> the >> >> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By >> this >> >> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and >> >> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like >> mini- >> >> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it happening >> >> >> before we exhaust earth. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> >> wrote:> >> >> >> > For >> >> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid >> belt. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases >> needed >> >> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you >> really >> >> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the >> resultant >> >> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a >> >> >> > propellant, >> >> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the >> technology >> >> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining >> >> >> > >> >> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the >> foreseeable >> >> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents >> >> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is >> a >> >> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics of >> >> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make >> >> >> > such >> >> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred >> years. >> >> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical >> objections, >> >> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is >> already >> >> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the >> area >> >> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human >> >> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of >> >> >> > weightlessness. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of development >> >> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find disquieting. >> >> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness and >> >> >> > our >> >> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as >> more >> >> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. >> We >> >> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Francis >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ( >> >> > ) >> >> > I_D Allan >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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