Kill the protagonist or antagonist. The End. dj
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:51 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > I know this is going to sound weird ,, but in writing even a bad story how > do you end it? It just seems to keep going on and on. > Allan > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:35 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I can believe that, you almost always have to have some sort of conflict >> to keep people interested. >> Allan >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Just remember to load it full of sex and desperate fights with aliens. >>> Niven was a Dr. of physics and he had to do that to get his stuff >>> published. It's what the people want; might as well give it to them. >>> >>> dj >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the >>> > size >>> > of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 >>> > million >>> > people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said >>> > earlier >>> > it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I >>> > think >>> > english is a foreign language to me. >>> > >>> > But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and >>> > then I >>> > have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story trying to >>> > make >>> > it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I >>> > will >>> > just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but >>> > I am >>> > not there yet long way to go.. >>> > >>> > Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun, >>> > Allan >>> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing. It may be time to reread >>> >> this >>> >> classic. >>> >> >>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld >>> >> >>> >> dj >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm >>> >> > massive >>> >> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air >>> >> > breathable >>> >> > and >>> >> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a >>> >> > little >>> >> > electricity. >>> >> > >>> >> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable >>> >> > and >>> >> > in >>> >> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . >>> >> > Material >>> >> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire >>> >> > production >>> >> > on >>> >> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be >>> >> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is >>> >> > possible >>> >> > to >>> >> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just >>> >> > what >>> >> > you >>> >> > harvest. >>> >> > >>> >> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays >>> >> > Space SF >>> >> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not >>> >> > practical >>> >> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but >>> >> > impractical >>> >> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can >>> >> > be >>> >> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate >>> >> > earths >>> >> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal >>> >> > solution >>> >> > with >>> >> > its mineral rich diversification . >>> >> > >>> >> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are >>> >> > mostly >>> >> > made >>> >> > of ammonia now figure that one. >>> >> > Allan >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t >>> >> >> I? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be >>> >> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/ >>> >> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By >>> >> >> this >>> >> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and >>> >> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like >>> >> >> mini- >>> >> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it >>> >> >> happening >>> >> >> before we exhaust earth. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> >>> >> >> > wrote:> >>> >> >> > For >>> >> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid >>> >> >> > > belt. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases >>> >> >> > needed >>> >> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you >>> >> >> > really >>> >> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the >>> >> >> > resultant >>> >> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a >>> >> >> > propellant, >>> >> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the >>> >> >> > technology >>> >> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the >>> >> >> > foreseeable >>> >> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents >>> >> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is >>> >> >> > a >>> >> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics >>> >> >> > of >>> >> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make >>> >> >> > such >>> >> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred >>> >> >> > years. >>> >> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical >>> >> >> > objections, >>> >> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is >>> >> >> > already >>> >> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the >>> >> >> > area >>> >> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human >>> >> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of >>> >> >> > weightlessness. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of >>> >> >> > development >>> >> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find >>> >> >> > disquieting. >>> >> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness >>> >> >> > and >>> >> >> > our >>> >> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as >>> >> >> > more >>> >> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. >>> >> >> > We >>> >> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Francis >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > ( >>> >> > ) >>> >> > I_D Allan >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > ( >>> > ) >>> > I_D Allan >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> I_D Allan > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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