Seems I've confused Nevin with Asimov; who was a Dr. of Biochemestry. Oops.
dj On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Don Johnson<[email protected]> wrote: > Just remember to load it full of sex and desperate fights with aliens. > Niven was a Dr. of physics and he had to do that to get his stuff > published. It's what the people want; might as well give it to them. > > dj > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: >> My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the size >> of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 million >> people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said earlier >> it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I think >> english is a foreign language to me. >> >> But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and then I >> have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story trying to make >> it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I will >> just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but I am >> not there yet long way to go.. >> >> Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun, >> Allan >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing. It may be time to reread this >>> classic. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld >>> >>> dj >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm >>> > massive >>> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air breathable >>> > and >>> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a >>> > little >>> > electricity. >>> > >>> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable and >>> > in >>> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . Material >>> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire production >>> > on >>> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be >>> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is possible >>> > to >>> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just what >>> > you >>> > harvest. >>> > >>> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays >>> > Space SF >>> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not >>> > practical >>> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but >>> > impractical >>> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can be >>> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate earths >>> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal solution >>> > with >>> > its mineral rich diversification . >>> > >>> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are mostly >>> > made >>> > of ammonia now figure that one. >>> > Allan >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t I? >>> >> >>> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be >>> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/ >>> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, the >>> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By this >>> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and >>> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like mini- >>> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it happening >>> >> before we exhaust earth. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:> >>> >> > For >>> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me. >>> >> > >>> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid belt. >>> >> > >>> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases needed >>> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you really >>> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the resultant >>> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a >>> >> > propellant, >>> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the technology >>> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going. >>> >> > >>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining >>> >> > >>> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the foreseeable >>> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents >>> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is a >>> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics of >>> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make >>> >> > such >>> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred years. >>> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical objections, >>> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is already >>> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the area >>> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human >>> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of >>> >> > weightlessness. >>> >> > >>> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of development >>> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find disquieting. >>> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness and >>> >> > our >>> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as more >>> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. We >>> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will. >>> >> > >>> >> > Francis >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > ( >>> > ) >>> > I_D Allan >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> I_D Allan >> >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
