Just remember to load it full of sex and desperate fights with aliens. Niven was a Dr. of physics and he had to do that to get his stuff published. It's what the people want; might as well give it to them.
dj On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the size > of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 million > people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said earlier > it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I think > english is a foreign language to me. > > But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and then I > have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story trying to make > it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I will > just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but I am > not there yet long way to go.. > > Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun, > Allan > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing. It may be time to reread this >> classic. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld >> >> dj >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: >> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm >> > massive >> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air breathable >> > and >> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a >> > little >> > electricity. >> > >> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable and >> > in >> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . Material >> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire production >> > on >> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be >> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is possible >> > to >> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just what >> > you >> > harvest. >> > >> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays >> > Space SF >> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not >> > practical >> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but >> > impractical >> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can be >> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate earths >> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal solution >> > with >> > its mineral rich diversification . >> > >> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are mostly >> > made >> > of ammonia now figure that one. >> > Allan >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind >> > <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t I? >> >> >> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be >> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/ >> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, the >> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By this >> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and >> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like mini- >> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it happening >> >> before we exhaust earth. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:> >> >> > For >> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me. >> >> > >> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid belt. >> >> > >> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases needed >> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you really >> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the resultant >> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a >> >> > propellant, >> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the technology >> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going. >> >> > >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining >> >> > >> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the foreseeable >> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents >> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is a >> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics of >> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make >> >> > such >> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred years. >> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical objections, >> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is already >> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the area >> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human >> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of >> >> > weightlessness. >> >> > >> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of development >> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find disquieting. >> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness and >> >> > our >> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as more >> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. We >> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will. >> >> > >> >> > Francis >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ( >> > ) >> > I_D Allan >> > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
