I don't kill them but I through the whole lot in jail just for no reason other than they deserve it. Allan
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Seems I've confused Nevin with Asimov; who was a Dr. of Biochemestry. > Oops. > > dj > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Don Johnson<[email protected]> wrote: > > Just remember to load it full of sex and desperate fights with aliens. > > Niven was a Dr. of physics and he had to do that to get his stuff > > published. It's what the people want; might as well give it to them. > > > > dj > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the > size > >> of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 > million > >> people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said > earlier > >> it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I > think > >> english is a foreign language to me. > >> > >> But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and then > I > >> have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story trying to > make > >> it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I will > >> just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but > I am > >> not there yet long way to go.. > >> > >> Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun, > >> Allan > >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing. It may be time to reread this > >>> classic. > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld > >>> > >>> dj > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm > >>> > massive > >>> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air > breathable > >>> > and > >>> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a > >>> > little > >>> > electricity. > >>> > > >>> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable > and > >>> > in > >>> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . > Material > >>> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire > production > >>> > on > >>> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be > >>> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is > possible > >>> > to > >>> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just > what > >>> > you > >>> > harvest. > >>> > > >>> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays > >>> > Space SF > >>> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not > >>> > practical > >>> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but > >>> > impractical > >>> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can > be > >>> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate > earths > >>> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal > solution > >>> > with > >>> > its mineral rich diversification . > >>> > > >>> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are > mostly > >>> > made > >>> > of ammonia now figure that one. > >>> > Allan > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind > >>> > <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t I? > > >>> >> > >>> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be > >>> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/ > >>> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, > the > >>> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By > this > >>> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and > >>> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like > mini- > >>> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it happening > >>> >> before we exhaust earth. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote:> > >>> >> > For > >>> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid > belt. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases > needed > >>> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you > really > >>> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the > resultant > >>> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a > >>> >> > propellant, > >>> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the > technology > >>> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining > >>> >> > > >>> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the > foreseeable > >>> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents > >>> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is > a > >>> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics of > >>> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make > >>> >> > such > >>> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred > years. > >>> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical > objections, > >>> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is > already > >>> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the > area > >>> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human > >>> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of > >>> >> > weightlessness. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of development > >>> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find disquieting. > >>> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness and > >>> >> > our > >>> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as > more > >>> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. > We > >>> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Francis > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > ( > >>> > ) > >>> > I_D Allan > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> I_D Allan > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
