I can believe that, you almost always have to have some sort of conflict to keep people interested. Allan
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just remember to load it full of sex and desperate fights with aliens. > Niven was a Dr. of physics and he had to do that to get his stuff > published. It's what the people want; might as well give it to them. > > dj > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> wrote: > > My design in the story is not that big,, bu it is about three times the > size > > of the Netherlands is and would have the ability to support about 16 > million > > people ,, Just guessing though. Just guessing though,, like |I said > earlier > > it is just a bad story as I am not really a writer and some times I think > > english is a foreign language to me. > > > > But it is fun trying to write it am up to a bunch of sections,, and then > I > > have to figure out how to go through it and rework the story trying to > make > > it better,, if I figure out how to do that, but till that happens I will > > just keep adding to the story,, have the ending figured out I think but I > am > > not there yet long way to go.. > > > > Day dreaming about a SF space station is kind of fun, > > Allan > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Sci-Fi gets the creative juices flowing. It may be time to reread this > >> classic. > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld > >> > >> dj > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:48 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > I think to live in space or it is going to take a lot of refining mm > >> > massive > >> > growing rooms to process the carbon dioxide to keep the air breathable > >> > and > >> > yes yes oxygen is easily extractable from water as all it takes is a > >> > little > >> > electricity. > >> > > >> > At best it is not an easy process but the resources are avaliable and > >> > in > >> > the beginning it will not be easy, but it would become easier . > Material > >> > wise a single asteroid can contain more iron than the entire > production > >> > on > >> > earth for several years. the different metals and materials can be > >> > determined by radio telemetry (I think that is the word) it is > possible > >> > to > >> > see what is there electronically , so you can pick and chose just what > >> > you > >> > harvest. > >> > > >> > And it will take people much smarter than me. and I do think todays > >> > Space SF > >> > is harmful to the concept because interstellar space travel is not > >> > practical > >> > with todays science. living on the moon or mars is doable but > >> > impractical > >> > because of the gravity thing, but gravity or artificial gravity can be > >> > created by centrifugal force and be controlled easily to simulate > earths > >> > gravity. The easily accessible asteroid belt make for an ideal > solution > >> > with > >> > its mineral rich diversification . > >> > > >> > Incidentally some of the massive clouds (light years across) are > mostly > >> > made > >> > of ammonia now figure that one. > >> > Allan > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 AM, ornamentalmind > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Fran, thanks for the education. I did speak quite hastily, didn’t I? > > >> >> > >> >> Perhaps, even though I spent decades digesting the best SF to be > >> >> found, I lack vision. Still, given the current human condition/ > >> >> situation, I just don’t see how any set of humans we got to, say, the > >> >> asteroid belt, would do better than those of us here on earth. By > this > >> >> I mean that fairly quickly they would be using up resources and > >> >> polluting the cosmos let alone other aspects of being human, like > mini- > >> >> wars.…but more importantly, technologically I don’t see it happening > >> >> before we exhaust earth. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Jul 29, 2:50 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > On 29 Jul., 20:03, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote:> > >> >> > For > >> >> > the record, the above was written by fran and not me. > >> >> > > >> >> > > And, yes, air, food, water...none are found in the asteroid belt. > >> >> > > >> >> > Sorry, orn, not true for two out of three. Water and the gases > needed > >> >> > to constitute a breathable atmosphere are there. In fact, you > really > >> >> > only need oxygen, which can be easily won from water - the > resultant > >> >> > hydrogen left over could be used, among other things, as a > >> >> > propellant, > >> >> > or source of energy. What we probably really need is the technology > >> >> > for controlled fusion to get a lot of this going. > >> >> > > >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroid_mining > >> >> > > >> >> > In the absence of FTL travel we seem to be limited in the > foreseeable > >> >> > future to the solar system. The scenario which Allan presents > >> >> > (habitats in the asteroid belt) seems quite possible. The belt is a > >> >> > rich source for all sorts of anorganic material - the economics of > >> >> > extracting increasingly limited resources on our planet will make > >> >> > such > >> >> > a step increasingly attractive in the next couple of hundred years. > >> >> > Despite all sorts of philosophical, ethical and practical > objections, > >> >> > it seems likely to me that the genetical engineering djinn is > already > >> >> > truly out of the bottle, leading to possible applications in the > area > >> >> > of hydroponics and synthetic food production, perhaps even human > >> >> > genetic engineering with respect to problematic aspects of > >> >> > weightlessness. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm not saying that that many of the possible paths of development > >> >> > don't contain aspects which I, personally, might find disquieting. > >> >> > But, given the human characteristics of monkey inquisitiveness and > >> >> > our > >> >> > propensity to take risks to make a potential buck - as well as more > >> >> > noble motives - I do see it as probable that we will go this way. > We > >> >> > will probably not see it - our grandchildren probably will. > >> >> > > >> >> > Francis > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ( > >> > ) > >> > I_D Allan > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > > > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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