Right, knowledge renders belief obsolete. People of faith do not rely on knowledge, which certainly does make religion perplexing. A large percentage of the world bought into it as well, which is even more astounding. I guess religion offers hope, but the validity of the teachings leaves me saddened by the naive nature of humans.
I believe that spirit is an inherent ingredient in all humans, but many hide from the recognition of such. I paid much attention to the unknown activity that often nagged at my cranium, and this led to some remarkable experiences that I a cannot do justice to with words. These experiences have provided me with the knowledge of "God", although I do not use that word to describe "it". I believe that all recognition of "God" must be achieved through the acceptance of the spirit within, and the desire to know more about it. Similar to climbing a mountain, one will never get to the top without the desire and effort to do so. Why some do not ever recognize the spirit within is something that I cannot answer. On Jul 30, 10:55 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm digging on this...you have to know it to not believe it, so where does > the knowledge come from? *idea sort of forming* > Am I on the right track? > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:46 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Due to the heat where I live (106 yesterday), I almost don’t have the > > energy to engage in theology discussions today…and… > > (Here it comes again for the old timers here! ;-) ) > > > I am a sort of a Gnostic/atheist….if one must assign terms. When it > > comes to belief(s), the very notion of belief leaves me perplexed. I > > can say that things I know about I can decide to give attention to. > > Also, other things I know about I can not give attention to. In both > > cases, one must have some knowledge/wisdom about the notion in > > question. > > > I project on others that they too must have some sort of notion of > > what god must be/be like…what attributes are involved. This I find to > > be the case whether they are theistic or atheistic. So, again in both > > cases, the person knows about the thing being addressed, god in this > > context. Some decide, based on some previous experience(s), to reject > > the notion and others decide to embrace it. For me, the main question > > here is what has led to the ‘now’ that produces a choice? An adjunct > > question involves the above named attributes…but that is not the > > foundation of this question. It does need to be addressed for people > > to be clear in interaction about the divine though. > > > I’ll stop here and see if anyone wishes to continue… > > > On Jul 30, 12:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > HaHa Yes, it's a good replacement for normalcy as well. However, what > > > some people consider weird, others consider normal, so it's really > > > relegated to ones perception. And I agree about the problem of > > > understanding religion through "normal" eyes. > > > > On Jul 30, 2:17 pm, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I find weirdness relieving. I think it's because it gives me a break > > > > from tirelessly (without tires) trying to make sense of everything. > > > > This is especially helpful when it comes to religion.- Hide quoted text > > - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
