Actually, my "knowledge" of politics is minimal, while my "opinion" of politics is massive. I avoid it like the plague. I have never voted and never plan to. I find a large majority of politicians will do or say anything to get elected, and then do whatever they can to improve their own lot thereafter. I realize this is a bit harsh and wide sweeping, yet I have found that the gaining of power often removes ethical reasoning from many politicians, and replaces it with greed.
I do not interchange the words knowledge and opinion. Knowledge is an unquestionable fact, while opinion is more like belief as it relates to the unknown. I agree that knowledge can expand or deepen, but that does not change the original factual reality. On Jul 31, 8:49 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps, but as I have noted we do seem to use these two word > interchangeably, and declare as knowldge what should really be called > opinion. > > Take politics as an example. What would you say is the best form of > goverment, do you support Conservitism or Socialism? > > I think that knowledge can and does change, or perhaps our > understanding of the knowledge we have deepens. > > On 31 July, 13:19, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I guess it is in the definition of the word. If one believes in > > something can that belief change? I think the answer to that is yes. > > If one knows something, will that knowledge ever change? I think the > > answer to that is no. To me, when one says that they believe > > something, it means that they hope, feel, suppose or have faith that > > their belief exists. No such feelings are needed with knowledge. Maybe > > its just semantics here. > > > On Jul 31, 7:39 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > I'm sorry but I have to disgree with the first part of this. > > > > Knowledge renders belife obsolete, naaa it dont' We work with both > > > all of the time. For example, this very statement. 'Knowledge renders > > > belife obsolete'. How do you 'know' that? It is clear that you must > > > belive it, why else say it? How have you gained 'knowledge' that it > > > is true? > > > > I think you have not, I think this is just another belife you hold > > > to. Hah or so I belive. > > > > On 31 July, 12:32, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Right, knowledge renders belief obsolete. People of faith do not rely > > > > on knowledge, which certainly does make religion perplexing. A large > > > > percentage of the world bought into it as well, which is even more > > > > astounding. I guess religion offers hope, but the validity of the > > > > teachings leaves me saddened by the naive nature of humans. > > > > > I believe that spirit is an inherent ingredient in all humans, but > > > > many hide from the recognition of such. I paid much attention to the > > > > unknown activity that often nagged at my cranium, and this led to some > > > > remarkable experiences that I a cannot do justice to with words. These > > > > experiences have provided me with the knowledge of "God", although I > > > > do not use that word to describe "it". I believe that all recognition > > > > of "God" must be achieved through the acceptance of the spirit within, > > > > and the desire to know more about it. Similar to climbing a mountain, > > > > one will never get to the top without the desire and effort to do so. > > > > Why some do not ever recognize the spirit within is something that I > > > > cannot answer. > > > > > On Jul 30, 10:55 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm digging on this...you have to know it to not believe it, so where > > > > > does > > > > > the knowledge come from? *idea sort of forming* > > > > > Am I on the right track? > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:46 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Due to the heat where I live (106 yesterday), I almost don’t have > > > > > > the > > > > > > energy to engage in theology discussions today…and… > > > > > > (Here it comes again for the old timers here! ;-) ) > > > > > > > I am a sort of a Gnostic/atheist….if one must assign terms. When it > > > > > > comes to belief(s), the very notion of belief leaves me perplexed. I > > > > > > can say that things I know about I can decide to give attention to. > > > > > > Also, other things I know about I can not give attention to. In both > > > > > > cases, one must have some knowledge/wisdom about the notion in > > > > > > question. > > > > > > > I project on others that they too must have some sort of notion of > > > > > > what god must be/be like…what attributes are involved. This I find > > > > > > to > > > > > > be the case whether they are theistic or atheistic. So, again in > > > > > > both > > > > > > cases, the person knows about the thing being addressed, god in this > > > > > > context. Some decide, based on some previous experience(s), to > > > > > > reject > > > > > > the notion and others decide to embrace it. For me, the main > > > > > > question > > > > > > here is what has led to the ‘now’ that produces a choice? An adjunct > > > > > > question involves the above named attributes…but that is not the > > > > > > foundation of this question. It does need to be addressed for people > > > > > > to be clear in interaction about the divine though. > > > > > > > I’ll stop here and see if anyone wishes to continue… > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 12:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > HaHa Yes, it's a good replacement for normalcy as well. However, > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > some people consider weird, others consider normal, so it's really > > > > > > > relegated to ones perception. And I agree about the problem of > > > > > > > understanding religion through "normal" eyes. > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2:17 pm, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I find weirdness relieving. I think it's because it gives me a > > > > > > > > break > > > > > > > > from tirelessly (without tires) trying to make sense of > > > > > > > > everything. > > > > > > > > This is especially helpful when it comes to religion.- Hide > > > > > > > > quoted text > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
