No it doesn't, but I am patient ;-]
On Jul 31, 6:24 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi deripsni!
>
> There are times in people lives when things seem to happen for a
> reason, or perhaps things happen and then we think that they have
> happened for a reason.
> Anyhow there are things that have happened to me which make me believe
> that I have to do something about it, and one of those things has been
> so powerful to push me to believe that I must do something about it
> and this is what I call my call.
> One day I am going to share this with you all and then I want to see
> if you thing that I have been brain washed from a preacher.
> For your information: for the last ten years I have been to church no
> more than a dozen times due to family circumstances.
> I hope that this partially answers your questions?
> Manfraco
>
> On Jul 31, 9:38 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > LOL, Thanks for the non-answer! ;-]
>
> > On Jul 30, 10:26 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi reripsni!
> > > What I have been called to do I will do, if God wants me to do it, it
> > > is going to take me a long time but I’ll get there somehow.
> > > Anyhow thanks for replying to my post deripsni
> > > My regards
> > > Manfraco
>
> > > On Jul 30, 8:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > What have you been called to do? I'd like to suggest that instead of
> > > > "looking for God outside the box", that you simply look inside
> > > > yourself and not at what others have done. Formal education will not
> > > > help you find "God". I think you should rename your "higher call" to
> > > > "inner call". Personally I have learned more about "God" with eyes
> > > > shut than from years of living under the roof of a preacher man and
> > > > going to church 5 times a week. The words of others, if not repeated
> > > > from what they have heard, will simply be their own reflection of
> > > > events that happened to them during meditation or some other form of
> > > > internalization or introspection.
>
> > > > On Jul 30, 1:01 am, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi Molly!
> > > > > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and your explanations
> > > > > are spot on.
> > > > > I can see now that again I have not expressed myself clearly, because
> > > > > some of you think that I am bitter towards God, but I am not because I
> > > > > have already heard the call as you put it, in fact I post here just
> > > > > because I want to find a way on how can I do what my call wants me to
> > > > > do.
> > > > > I want to look for God outside the box of the existing religious
> > > > > beliefs, and I know that this is not going to be easy for me as I am
> > > > > low in formal education, but then I look at what the higher educated
> > > > > people have done till now and I wonder whether they are going to do
> > > > > anything to fix things, as I see they need to be fixed, so here I am
> > > > > to start following my higher call and see if I can get anywhere with
> > > > > my limited writing skills.
>
> > > > > So to the phrase, let those with ears hear, I would like to add, let
> > > > > those with minds think what needs to be done.
> > > > > I hope that this explanation may also be an answer to the rest of the
> > > > > group.
> > > > > My regards to you all
> > > > > Manfraco.
>
> > > > > On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I agree with your picture of God, Manfranco. I think he is the life
> > > > > > force within us and around us, infinitely. And I think that this is
> > > > > > where it all begins with each religion, and then individuals take
> > > > > > over
> > > > > > and make it more and more different and complex to fit the needs of
> > > > > > their culture. In regard to God pleasing, my opinion is that the
> > > > > > expression of God is love, in all forms.
>
> > > > > > This God within us is "a respecter of no man," and to me what this
> > > > > > biblical phrase means is that he takes us at our exact word and
> > > > > > intent. Because we are human, we are not always operating from the
> > > > > > God within us or our highest self, but sometimes from our finite
> > > > > > instinctual or egotistical natures. If we are feeling fear because
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > think we don't have enough then God will give this to us, not
> > > > > > enough.
> > > > > > If we are feeling hate because "others" have more than we do or do
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > recognize us for the great people we think we are, then God gives us
> > > > > > more to hate.
>
> > > > > > His love gives us what we feel and think, but gives us more - a
> > > > > > higher
> > > > > > calling. Within the hate and fear that we have drawn into our
> > > > > > experience with thoughts and feelings of hate and fear, there will
> > > > > > always be a higher calling from God toward love. If we have the
> > > > > > wisdom to hear the call, we can move out of our smaller selves and
> > > > > > into our higher calling. Let those with ears hear.
>
> > > > > > On Jul 25, 7:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi everybody:
> > > > > > > Allow me to say what I think about God
>
> > > > > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe, which
> > > > > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life force is
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > all religious people are talking about and while they claim and
> > > > > > > state
> > > > > > > that they know everything about God, they really know very little
> > > > > > > about him/her/it.
> > > > > > > For me:
> > > > > > > (1) God may even be the whole universe, so we live within God
> > > > > > > and we
> > > > > > > are part of God life force.
> > > > > > > (2) God may just be all the energies in the universe that have
> > > > > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an
> > > > > > > intelligent
> > > > > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to every
> > > > > > > living
> > > > > > > thing.
> > > > > > > (3) For God to exist, God ought to be willing to please every
> > > > > > > living
> > > > > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds, otherwise we
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be for us
> > > > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > > (4) What do you think? I hope I don’t upset many people with
> > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > statements.
> > > > > > > (5) Greetings to you all, Manfraco.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 25, 5:56 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I'm not sure how much we have evolved, but I know we have
> > > > > > > > adapted.
> > > > > > > > Our inventiveness makes sure of it.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Lotro - If by "God" you mean the god of the bible, then I
> > > > > > > > > disagree.
> > > > > > > > > Why? First, I view the bible as just a collection of campfire
> > > > > > > > > stories.
> > > > > > > > > Second, the god of the bible is awful - for example, he (or
> > > > > > > > > she) told
> > > > > > > > > Abraham to take his kid out back and kill him, and to win a
> > > > > > > > > bet put
> > > > > > > > > Job through the agonies of the damned, and put his "only
> > > > > > > > > begotten son"
> > > > > > > > > here to die a death of prolonged torture. What rational
> > > > > > > > > person would
> > > > > > > > > choose to believe in such a "God?" Not me. But I do believe
> > > > > > > > > there is a
> > > > > > > > > spirit that pervades all and that gives rise to all, maybe
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > because it can. And one of the things it gives rise to is
> > > > > > > > > rationality
> > > > > > > > > - the ability to understand that yeilds all of science
> > > > > > > > > including the
> > > > > > > > > theory of evolution. Jim
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 11:31 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Do not believe humans have revolved from apes of any kind.
> > > > > > > > > > However, we have evolved. As the earth was formed and has
> > > > > > > > > > changes throughout the many years, humans have had to
> > > > > > > > > > evolve in order to survive earth's different climits , etc.
> > > > > > > > > > Any other wonderful, highly intelligent (ha) humans agree
> > > > > > > > > > with this conclusion? I believe there is a God. BUT, that
> > > > > > > > > > doesn't mean there could not have been a big bang, or any
> > > > > > > > > > other way the earth was formed (as many like to subscribe
> > > > > > > > > > to.) It does, however, mean that "GOD" could have formed
> > > > > > > > > > the earth in anyway. Science, evolution and the God theory
> > > > > > > > > > can still all go together. One must not believe only one or
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