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On Aug 2, 6:42 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
wrote:
> My experiences does not go as far as yours, but just enough to know
> that the spiritual side exists; so, I know what you mean when you say
> that the rest of the world looks at your experiences in a strange
> way.
> Anyhow, at this point of time I am still prepared to share my
> experiences no matter what happens next and I will be posting them
> when I am ready.
>
> On Aug 2, 12:18 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > No, I am a hermetic quasi-lunatic, surviving the remainder of my time
> > as a human. I look forward to post-humanity so longingly that I am
> > actually attempting to kill myself, although I am doing it slowly so
> > nobody will notice. ;-]
>
> > I have enjoyed several ****** events that words will not describe, so
> > I do not like to put title to it. After these experiences (some thirty
> > years ago), I actually shut down my search for any sort of meaning
> > there may be to human life. I felt I had experienced "Nirvana",
> > "Heaven" or whatever word one uses to describe perfect knowledge-laden
> > bliss. When I tried to describe these experiences to family, friends
> > and associates, they looked at me with blank expressions on their
> > face. I soon realized that I was a freak, and my humanity became a
> > stage of my spiritual existance that I wanted to move on from.
>
> > I would prefer to live in the spiritual (non-material) world, and have
> > imagined sticking all of the moments of pure bliss together to make up
> > extended time, so that every second one is experiencing this ongoing
> > goosebump, similar to my previous experiences. Obviously this is
> > impossible with the demands of human life (i.e. breathing, eating,
> > doing the reverse of eating, etc). Because these experiences could not
> > have been much more thrilling, I have been holding my breath waiting
> > for a time when I don't have to take one anymore. ;-]
>
> > Anyway, since then I have been intrigued by people who claim to have
> > callings. I sometimes ask for details, and get a variety of responses,
> > few of which are seperate from their human existance, which is where
> > my interest lies. If there is something that you can describe that is
> > calling you, I would be interested in hearing about it, mostly because
> > I'm nosey. If not, that is okay as well. :-]
>
> > On Aug 1, 7:25 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi deripsni,
>
> > > On Aug 1, 9:41 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:> No it doesn't,
> > > but I am patient ;-]
>
> > > You may have to be patient for a long time if you want me to explain
> > > you my views, because I have to put together my notes first in a way
> > > that they make sense to the reader, and then I have to find a way how
> > > to make a link, so that I can post this link to you.
>
> > > May I ask you a personal question?
> > > Are you a teacher, a professor or a priest I am wondering?
> > > If you care to answer it or not may not matter.
> > > My regards
> > > Manfraco
>
> > > > On Jul 31, 6:24 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi deripsni!
>
> > > > > There are times in people lives when things seem to happen for a
> > > > > reason, or perhaps things happen and then we think that they have
> > > > > happened for a reason.
> > > > > Anyhow there are things that have happened to me which make me believe
> > > > > that I have to do something about it, and one of those things has been
> > > > > so powerful to push me to believe that I must do something about it
> > > > > and this is what I call my call.
> > > > > One day I am going to share this with you all and then I want to see
> > > > > if you thing that I have been brain washed from a preacher.
> > > > > For your information: for the last ten years I have been to church no
> > > > > more than a dozen times due to family circumstances.
> > > > > I hope that this partially answers your questions?
> > > > > Manfraco
>
> > > > > On Jul 31, 9:38 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > LOL, Thanks for the non-answer! ;-]
>
> > > > > > On Jul 30, 10:26 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi reripsni!
> > > > > > > What I have been called to do I will do, if God wants me to do
> > > > > > > it, it
> > > > > > > is going to take me a long time but I’ll get there somehow.
> > > > > > > Anyhow thanks for replying to my post deripsni
> > > > > > > My regards
> > > > > > > Manfraco
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > What have you been called to do? I'd like to suggest that
> > > > > > > > instead of
> > > > > > > > "looking for God outside the box", that you simply look inside
> > > > > > > > yourself and not at what others have done. Formal education
> > > > > > > > will not
> > > > > > > > help you find "God". I think you should rename your "higher
> > > > > > > > call" to
> > > > > > > > "inner call". Personally I have learned more about "God" with
> > > > > > > > eyes
> > > > > > > > shut than from years of living under the roof of a preacher man
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > going to church 5 times a week. The words of others, if not
> > > > > > > > repeated
> > > > > > > > from what they have heard, will simply be their own reflection
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > events that happened to them during meditation or some other
> > > > > > > > form of
> > > > > > > > internalization or introspection.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:01 am, Manfraco Frank the Elder
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Hi Molly!
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and your
> > > > > > > > > explanations
> > > > > > > > > are spot on.
> > > > > > > > > I can see now that again I have not expressed myself clearly,
> > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > some of you think that I am bitter towards God, but I am not
> > > > > > > > > because I
> > > > > > > > > have already heard the call as you put it, in fact I post
> > > > > > > > > here just
> > > > > > > > > because I want to find a way on how can I do what my call
> > > > > > > > > wants me to
> > > > > > > > > do.
> > > > > > > > > I want to look for God outside the box of the existing
> > > > > > > > > religious
> > > > > > > > > beliefs, and I know that this is not going to be easy for me
> > > > > > > > > as I am
> > > > > > > > > low in formal education, but then I look at what the higher
> > > > > > > > > educated
> > > > > > > > > people have done till now and I wonder whether they are going
> > > > > > > > > to do
> > > > > > > > > anything to fix things, as I see they need to be fixed, so
> > > > > > > > > here I am
> > > > > > > > > to start following my higher call and see if I can get
> > > > > > > > > anywhere with
> > > > > > > > > my limited writing skills.
>
> > > > > > > > > So to the phrase, let those with ears hear, I would like to
> > > > > > > > > add, let
> > > > > > > > > those with minds think what needs to be done.
> > > > > > > > > I hope that this explanation may also be an answer to the
> > > > > > > > > rest of the
> > > > > > > > > group.
> > > > > > > > > My regards to you all
> > > > > > > > > Manfraco.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I agree with your picture of God, Manfranco. I think he is
> > > > > > > > > > the life
> > > > > > > > > > force within us and around us, infinitely. And I think
> > > > > > > > > > that this is
> > > > > > > > > > where it all begins with each religion, and then
> > > > > > > > > > individuals take over
> > > > > > > > > > and make it more and more different and complex to fit the
> > > > > > > > > > needs of
> > > > > > > > > > their culture. In regard to God pleasing, my opinion is
> > > > > > > > > > that the
> > > > > > > > > > expression of God is love, in all forms.
>
> > > > > > > > > > This God within us is "a respecter of no man," and to me
> > > > > > > > > > what this
> > > > > > > > > > biblical phrase means is that he takes us at our exact word
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > intent. Because we are human, we are not always operating
> > > > > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > > > > God within us or our highest self, but sometimes from our
> > > > > > > > > > finite
> > > > > > > > > > instinctual or egotistical natures. If we are feeling fear
> > > > > > > > > > because we
> > > > > > > > > > think we don't have enough then God will give this to us,
> > > > > > > > > > not enough.
> > > > > > > > > > If we are feeling hate because "others" have more than we
> > > > > > > > > > do or do not
> > > > > > > > > > recognize us for the great people we think we are, then God
> > > > > > > > > > gives us
> > > > > > > > > > more to hate.
>
> > > > > > > > > > His love gives us what we feel and think, but gives us more
> > > > > > > > > > - a higher
> > > > > > > > > > calling. Within the hate and fear that we have drawn into
> > > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > experience with thoughts and feelings of hate and fear,
> > > > > > > > > > there will
> > > > > > > > > > always be a higher calling from God toward love. If we
> > > > > > > > > > have the
> > > > > > > > > > wisdom to hear the call, we can move out of our smaller
> > > > > > > > > > selves and
> > > > > > > > > > into our higher calling. Let those with ears hear.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 7:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody:
> > > > > > > > > > > Allow me to say what I think about God
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe,
> > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life
> > > > > > > > > > > force is what
> > > > > > > > > > > all religious people are talking about and while they
> > > > > > > > > > > claim and state
> > > > > > > > > > > that they know everything about God, they really know
> > > > > > > > > > > very little
> > > > > > > > > > > about him/her/it.
> > > > > > > > > > > For me:
> > > > > > > > > > > (1) God may even be the whole universe, so we live
> > > > > > > > > > > within God and we
> > > > > > > > > > > are part of God life force.
> > > > > > > > > > > (2) God may just be all the energies in the universe
> > > > > > > > > > > that have
> > > > > > > > > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an
> > > > > > > > > > > intelligent
> > > > > > > > > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to
> > > > > > > > > > > every living
> > > > > > > > > > > thing.
> > > > > > > > > > > (3) For God to exist, God ought to be willing to
> > > > > > > > > > > please every living
> > > > > > > > > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds,
> > > > > > > > > > > otherwise we will
> > > > > > > > > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be
> > > > > > > > > > > for us
>
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