Have you ever attempted suicide? There is a period of calm between committing to the act and committing it that can reveal insights and understandings heretofore denied giving a renewed sense of purpose to life in the here and now.
On Aug 1, 7:18 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > No, I am a hermetic quasi-lunatic, surviving the remainder of my time > as a human. I look forward to post-humanity so longingly that I am > actually attempting to kill myself, although I am doing it slowly so > nobody will notice. ;-] > > I have enjoyed several ****** events that words will not describe, so > I do not like to put title to it. After these experiences (some thirty > years ago), I actually shut down my search for any sort of meaning > there may be to human life. I felt I had experienced "Nirvana", > "Heaven" or whatever word one uses to describe perfect knowledge-laden > bliss. When I tried to describe these experiences to family, friends > and associates, they looked at me with blank expressions on their > face. I soon realized that I was a freak, and my humanity became a > stage of my spiritual existance that I wanted to move on from. > > I would prefer to live in the spiritual (non-material) world, and have > imagined sticking all of the moments of pure bliss together to make up > extended time, so that every second one is experiencing this ongoing > goosebump, similar to my previous experiences. Obviously this is > impossible with the demands of human life (i.e. breathing, eating, > doing the reverse of eating, etc). Because these experiences could not > have been much more thrilling, I have been holding my breath waiting > for a time when I don't have to take one anymore. ;-] > > Anyway, since then I have been intrigued by people who claim to have > callings. I sometimes ask for details, and get a variety of responses, > few of which are seperate from their human existance, which is where > my interest lies. If there is something that you can describe that is > calling you, I would be interested in hearing about it, mostly because > I'm nosey. If not, that is okay as well. :-] > > On Aug 1, 7:25 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi deripsni, > > > On Aug 1, 9:41 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:> No it doesn't, but > > I am patient ;-] > > > You may have to be patient for a long time if you want me to explain > > you my views, because I have to put together my notes first in a way > > that they make sense to the reader, and then I have to find a way how > > to make a link, so that I can post this link to you. > > > May I ask you a personal question? > > Are you a teacher, a professor or a priest I am wondering? > > If you care to answer it or not may not matter. > > My regards > > Manfraco > > > > On Jul 31, 6:24 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi deripsni! > > > > > There are times in people lives when things seem to happen for a > > > > reason, or perhaps things happen and then we think that they have > > > > happened for a reason. > > > > Anyhow there are things that have happened to me which make me believe > > > > that I have to do something about it, and one of those things has been > > > > so powerful to push me to believe that I must do something about it > > > > and this is what I call my call. > > > > One day I am going to share this with you all and then I want to see > > > > if you thing that I have been brain washed from a preacher. > > > > For your information: for the last ten years I have been to church no > > > > more than a dozen times due to family circumstances. > > > > I hope that this partially answers your questions? > > > > Manfraco > > > > > On Jul 31, 9:38 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > LOL, Thanks for the non-answer! ;-] > > > > > > On Jul 30, 10:26 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi reripsni! > > > > > > What I have been called to do I will do, if God wants me to do it, > > > > > > it > > > > > > is going to take me a long time but I’ll get there somehow. > > > > > > Anyhow thanks for replying to my post deripsni > > > > > > My regards > > > > > > Manfraco > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What have you been called to do? I'd like to suggest that instead > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > "looking for God outside the box", that you simply look inside > > > > > > > yourself and not at what others have done. Formal education will > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > help you find "God". I think you should rename your "higher call" > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > "inner call". Personally I have learned more about "God" with eyes > > > > > > > shut than from years of living under the roof of a preacher man > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > going to church 5 times a week. The words of others, if not > > > > > > > repeated > > > > > > > from what they have heard, will simply be their own reflection of > > > > > > > events that happened to them during meditation or some other form > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > internalization or introspection. > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:01 am, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Molly! > > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and your > > > > > > > > explanations > > > > > > > > are spot on. > > > > > > > > I can see now that again I have not expressed myself clearly, > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > some of you think that I am bitter towards God, but I am not > > > > > > > > because I > > > > > > > > have already heard the call as you put it, in fact I post here > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > because I want to find a way on how can I do what my call wants > > > > > > > > me to > > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > > > I want to look for God outside the box of the existing religious > > > > > > > > beliefs, and I know that this is not going to be easy for me as > > > > > > > > I am > > > > > > > > low in formal education, but then I look at what the higher > > > > > > > > educated > > > > > > > > people have done till now and I wonder whether they are going > > > > > > > > to do > > > > > > > > anything to fix things, as I see they need to be fixed, so here > > > > > > > > I am > > > > > > > > to start following my higher call and see if I can get anywhere > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > my limited writing skills. > > > > > > > > > So to the phrase, let those with ears hear, I would like to > > > > > > > > add, let > > > > > > > > those with minds think what needs to be done. > > > > > > > > I hope that this explanation may also be an answer to the rest > > > > > > > > of the > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > My regards to you all > > > > > > > > Manfraco. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I agree with your picture of God, Manfranco. I think he is > > > > > > > > > the life > > > > > > > > > force within us and around us, infinitely. And I think that > > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > where it all begins with each religion, and then individuals > > > > > > > > > take over > > > > > > > > > and make it more and more different and complex to fit the > > > > > > > > > needs of > > > > > > > > > their culture. In regard to God pleasing, my opinion is that > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > expression of God is love, in all forms. > > > > > > > > > > This God within us is "a respecter of no man," and to me what > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > biblical phrase means is that he takes us at our exact word > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > intent. Because we are human, we are not always operating > > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > God within us or our highest self, but sometimes from our > > > > > > > > > finite > > > > > > > > > instinctual or egotistical natures. If we are feeling fear > > > > > > > > > because we > > > > > > > > > think we don't have enough then God will give this to us, not > > > > > > > > > enough. > > > > > > > > > If we are feeling hate because "others" have more than we do > > > > > > > > > or do not > > > > > > > > > recognize us for the great people we think we are, then God > > > > > > > > > gives us > > > > > > > > > more to hate. > > > > > > > > > > His love gives us what we feel and think, but gives us more - > > > > > > > > > a higher > > > > > > > > > calling. Within the hate and fear that we have drawn into our > > > > > > > > > experience with thoughts and feelings of hate and fear, there > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > always be a higher calling from God toward love. If we have > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > wisdom to hear the call, we can move out of our smaller > > > > > > > > > selves and > > > > > > > > > into our higher calling. Let those with ears hear. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 7:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody: > > > > > > > > > > Allow me to say what I think about God > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life > > > > > > > > > > force is what > > > > > > > > > > all religious people are talking about and while they claim > > > > > > > > > > and state > > > > > > > > > > that they know everything about God, they really know very > > > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > > about him/her/it. > > > > > > > > > > For me: > > > > > > > > > > (1) God may even be the whole universe, so we live > > > > > > > > > > within God and we > > > > > > > > > > are part of God life force. > > > > > > > > > > (2) God may just be all the energies in the universe > > > > > > > > > > that have > > > > > > > > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an > > > > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to > > > > > > > > > > every living > > > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > (3) For God to exist, God ought to be willing to please > > > > > > > > > > every living > > > > > > > > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds, otherwise > > > > > > > > > > we will > > > > > > > > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be > > > > > > > > > > for us > > > > > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > > > (4) What do you think? I hope I don’t upset many people > > > > > > > > > > with these > > > > > > > > > > statements. > > > > > > > > > > (5) Greetings to you all, Manfraco. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 5:56 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how much we have evolved, but I know we have > > > > > > > > > > > adapted. > > > > > > > > > > > Our inventiveness makes sure of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lotro - If by "God" you mean the god of the bible, then > > > > > > > > > > > > I disagree. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? First, I view the bible as just a collection of > > > > > > > > > > > > campfire stories. > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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