Hi reripsni!
What I have been called to do I will do, if God wants me to do it, it
is going to take me a long time but I’ll get there somehow.
Anyhow thanks for replying to my post deripsni
My regards
Manfraco


On Jul 30, 8:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:
> What have you been called to do? I'd like to suggest that instead of
> "looking for God outside the box", that you simply look inside
> yourself and not at what others have done. Formal education will not
> help you find "God". I think you should rename your "higher call" to
> "inner call". Personally I have learned more about "God" with eyes
> shut than from years of living under the roof of a preacher man and
> going to church 5 times a week. The words of others, if not repeated
> from what they have heard, will simply be their own reflection of
> events that happened to them during meditation or some other form of
> internalization or introspection.
>
> On Jul 30, 1:01 am, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Molly!
> > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and your explanations
> > are spot on.
> > I can see now that again I have not expressed myself clearly, because
> > some of you think that I am bitter towards God, but I am not because I
> > have already heard the call as you put it, in fact I post here just
> > because I want to find a way on how can I do what my call wants me to
> > do.
> > I want to look for God outside the box of the existing religious
> > beliefs, and I know that this is not going to be easy for me as I am
> > low in formal education, but then I look at what the higher educated
> > people have done till now and I wonder whether they are going to do
> > anything to fix things, as I see they need to be fixed, so here I am
> > to start following my higher call and see if I can get anywhere with
> > my limited writing skills.
>
> > So to the phrase, let those with ears hear, I would like to add, let
> > those with minds think what needs to be done.
> > I hope that this explanation may also be an answer to the rest of the
> > group.
> > My regards to you all
> > Manfraco.
>
> > On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I agree with your picture of God, Manfranco.  I think he is the life
> > > force within us and around us, infinitely.  And I think that this is
> > > where it all begins with each religion, and then individuals take over
> > > and make it more and more different and complex to fit the needs of
> > > their culture. In regard to God pleasing, my opinion is that the
> > > expression of God is love, in all forms.
>
> > > This God within us is "a respecter of no man," and to me what this
> > > biblical phrase means is that he takes us at our exact word and
> > > intent.  Because we are human, we are not always operating from the
> > > God within us or our highest self, but sometimes from our finite
> > > instinctual or egotistical natures.  If we are feeling fear because we
> > > think we don't have enough then God will give this to us, not enough.
> > > If we are feeling hate because "others" have more than we do or do not
> > > recognize us for the great people we think we are, then God gives us
> > > more to hate.
>
> > > His love gives us what we feel and think, but gives us more - a higher
> > > calling.  Within the hate and fear that we have drawn into our
> > > experience with thoughts and feelings of hate and fear, there will
> > > always be a higher calling from God toward love.  If we have the
> > > wisdom to hear the call, we can move out of our smaller selves and
> > > into our higher calling.  Let those with ears hear.
>
> > > On Jul 25, 7:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi everybody:
> > > > Allow me to say what I think about God
>
> > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe, which
> > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life force is what
> > > > all religious people are talking about and while they claim and state
> > > > that they know everything about God, they really know very little
> > > > about him/her/it.
> > > > For me:
> > > > (1)     God may even be the whole universe, so we live within God and we
> > > > are part of God life force.
> > > > (2)     God may just be all the energies in the universe that have
> > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an intelligent
> > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to every living
> > > > thing.
> > > > (3)     For God to exist, God ought to be willing to please every living
> > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds, otherwise we will
> > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be for us
> > > > nothing.
> > > > (4)     What do you think? I hope I don’t upset many people with these
> > > > statements.
> > > > (5)     Greetings to you all, Manfraco.
>
> > > > On Jul 25, 5:56 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I'm not sure how much we have evolved, but I know we have adapted.
> > > > > Our inventiveness makes sure of it.
>
> > > > > On Jul 24, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Lotro - If by "God" you mean the god of the bible, then I disagree.
> > > > > > Why? First, I view the bible as just a collection of campfire 
> > > > > > stories.
> > > > > > Second, the god of the bible is awful - for example, he (or she) 
> > > > > > told
> > > > > > Abraham to take his kid out back and kill him, and to win a bet put
> > > > > > Job through the agonies of the damned, and put his "only begotten 
> > > > > > son"
> > > > > > here to die a death of prolonged torture. What rational person would
> > > > > > choose to believe in such a "God?" Not me. But I do believe there 
> > > > > > is a
> > > > > > spirit that pervades all and that gives rise to all, maybe just
> > > > > > because it can. And one of the things it gives rise to is 
> > > > > > rationality
> > > > > > - the ability to understand that yeilds all of science including the
> > > > > > theory of evolution. Jim
>
> > > > > > On Jul 23, 11:31 am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Do not believe humans have revolved from apes of any kind. 
> > > > > > > However, we have evolved. As the earth was formed and has changes 
> > > > > > > throughout the many years, humans have had to evolve in order to 
> > > > > > > survive earth's different climits , etc. Any other wonderful, 
> > > > > > > highly intelligent (ha) humans agree with this conclusion? I 
> > > > > > > believe there is a God. BUT, that doesn't mean there could not 
> > > > > > > have been a big bang, or any other way the earth was formed (as 
> > > > > > > many like to subscribe to.) It does, however, mean that "GOD" 
> > > > > > > could have formed the earth in anyway. Science, evolution and the 
> > > > > > > God theory can still all go together. One must not believe only 
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