No, I am a hermetic quasi-lunatic, surviving the remainder of my time as a human. I look forward to post-humanity so longingly that I am actually attempting to kill myself, although I am doing it slowly so nobody will notice. ;-]
I have enjoyed several ****** events that words will not describe, so I do not like to put title to it. After these experiences (some thirty years ago), I actually shut down my search for any sort of meaning there may be to human life. I felt I had experienced "Nirvana", "Heaven" or whatever word one uses to describe perfect knowledge-laden bliss. When I tried to describe these experiences to family, friends and associates, they looked at me with blank expressions on their face. I soon realized that I was a freak, and my humanity became a stage of my spiritual existance that I wanted to move on from. I would prefer to live in the spiritual (non-material) world, and have imagined sticking all of the moments of pure bliss together to make up extended time, so that every second one is experiencing this ongoing goosebump, similar to my previous experiences. Obviously this is impossible with the demands of human life (i.e. breathing, eating, doing the reverse of eating, etc). Because these experiences could not have been much more thrilling, I have been holding my breath waiting for a time when I don't have to take one anymore. ;-] Anyway, since then I have been intrigued by people who claim to have callings. I sometimes ask for details, and get a variety of responses, few of which are seperate from their human existance, which is where my interest lies. If there is something that you can describe that is calling you, I would be interested in hearing about it, mostly because I'm nosey. If not, that is okay as well. :-] On Aug 1, 7:25 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi deripsni, > > On Aug 1, 9:41 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote:> No it doesn't, but I > am patient ;-] > > You may have to be patient for a long time if you want me to explain > you my views, because I have to put together my notes first in a way > that they make sense to the reader, and then I have to find a way how > to make a link, so that I can post this link to you. > > May I ask you a personal question? > Are you a teacher, a professor or a priest I am wondering? > If you care to answer it or not may not matter. > My regards > Manfraco > > > > > On Jul 31, 6:24 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Hi deripsni! > > > > There are times in people lives when things seem to happen for a > > > reason, or perhaps things happen and then we think that they have > > > happened for a reason. > > > Anyhow there are things that have happened to me which make me believe > > > that I have to do something about it, and one of those things has been > > > so powerful to push me to believe that I must do something about it > > > and this is what I call my call. > > > One day I am going to share this with you all and then I want to see > > > if you thing that I have been brain washed from a preacher. > > > For your information: for the last ten years I have been to church no > > > more than a dozen times due to family circumstances. > > > I hope that this partially answers your questions? > > > Manfraco > > > > On Jul 31, 9:38 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > LOL, Thanks for the non-answer! ;-] > > > > > On Jul 30, 10:26 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi reripsni! > > > > > What I have been called to do I will do, if God wants me to do it, it > > > > > is going to take me a long time but I’ll get there somehow. > > > > > Anyhow thanks for replying to my post deripsni > > > > > My regards > > > > > Manfraco > > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > What have you been called to do? I'd like to suggest that instead of > > > > > > "looking for God outside the box", that you simply look inside > > > > > > yourself and not at what others have done. Formal education will not > > > > > > help you find "God". I think you should rename your "higher call" to > > > > > > "inner call". Personally I have learned more about "God" with eyes > > > > > > shut than from years of living under the roof of a preacher man and > > > > > > going to church 5 times a week. The words of others, if not repeated > > > > > > from what they have heard, will simply be their own reflection of > > > > > > events that happened to them during meditation or some other form of > > > > > > internalization or introspection. > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:01 am, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Molly! > > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and your > > > > > > > explanations > > > > > > > are spot on. > > > > > > > I can see now that again I have not expressed myself clearly, > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > some of you think that I am bitter towards God, but I am not > > > > > > > because I > > > > > > > have already heard the call as you put it, in fact I post here > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > because I want to find a way on how can I do what my call wants > > > > > > > me to > > > > > > > do. > > > > > > > I want to look for God outside the box of the existing religious > > > > > > > beliefs, and I know that this is not going to be easy for me as I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > low in formal education, but then I look at what the higher > > > > > > > educated > > > > > > > people have done till now and I wonder whether they are going to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > anything to fix things, as I see they need to be fixed, so here I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > to start following my higher call and see if I can get anywhere > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > my limited writing skills. > > > > > > > > So to the phrase, let those with ears hear, I would like to add, > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > those with minds think what needs to be done. > > > > > > > I hope that this explanation may also be an answer to the rest of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > My regards to you all > > > > > > > Manfraco. > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I agree with your picture of God, Manfranco. I think he is the > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > force within us and around us, infinitely. And I think that > > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > where it all begins with each religion, and then individuals > > > > > > > > take over > > > > > > > > and make it more and more different and complex to fit the > > > > > > > > needs of > > > > > > > > their culture. In regard to God pleasing, my opinion is that the > > > > > > > > expression of God is love, in all forms. > > > > > > > > > This God within us is "a respecter of no man," and to me what > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > biblical phrase means is that he takes us at our exact word and > > > > > > > > intent. Because we are human, we are not always operating from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > God within us or our highest self, but sometimes from our finite > > > > > > > > instinctual or egotistical natures. If we are feeling fear > > > > > > > > because we > > > > > > > > think we don't have enough then God will give this to us, not > > > > > > > > enough. > > > > > > > > If we are feeling hate because "others" have more than we do or > > > > > > > > do not > > > > > > > > recognize us for the great people we think we are, then God > > > > > > > > gives us > > > > > > > > more to hate. > > > > > > > > > His love gives us what we feel and think, but gives us more - a > > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > calling. Within the hate and fear that we have drawn into our > > > > > > > > experience with thoughts and feelings of hate and fear, there > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > always be a higher calling from God toward love. If we have the > > > > > > > > wisdom to hear the call, we can move out of our smaller selves > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > into our higher calling. Let those with ears hear. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 7:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody: > > > > > > > > > Allow me to say what I think about God > > > > > > > > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe, > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life > > > > > > > > > force is what > > > > > > > > > all religious people are talking about and while they claim > > > > > > > > > and state > > > > > > > > > that they know everything about God, they really know very > > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > > about him/her/it. > > > > > > > > > For me: > > > > > > > > > (1) God may even be the whole universe, so we live within > > > > > > > > > God and we > > > > > > > > > are part of God life force. > > > > > > > > > (2) God may just be all the energies in the universe that > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an > > > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to > > > > > > > > > every living > > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > (3) For God to exist, God ought to be willing to please > > > > > > > > > every living > > > > > > > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds, otherwise > > > > > > > > > we will > > > > > > > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be for > > > > > > > > > us > > > > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > > (4) What do you think? I hope I don’t upset many people > > > > > > > > > with these > > > > > > > > > statements. > > > > > > > > > (5) Greetings to you all, Manfraco. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 5:56 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how much we have evolved, but I know we have > > > > > > > > > > adapted. > > > > > > > > > > Our inventiveness makes sure of it. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lotro - If by "God" you mean the god of the bible, then I > > > > > > > > > > > disagree. > > > > > > > > > > > Why? First, I view the bible as just a collection of > > > > > > > > > > > campfire stories. > > > > > > > > > > > Second, the god of the bible is awful - for example, he > > > > > > > > > > > (or she) told > > > > > > > > > > > Abraham to take his kid out back and kill him, and to win > > > > > > > > > > > a bet put > > > > > > > > > > > Job through the agonies of the damned, and put his "only > > > > > > > > > > > begotten son" > > > > > > > > > > > here to die a death of prolonged torture. What rational > > > > > > > > > > > person would > > > > > > > > > > > choose to believe in such a "God?" Not me. But I do > > > > > > > > > > > believe there is a > > > > > > > > > > > spirit that pervades all and that gives rise to all, > > > > > > > > > > > maybe just > > > > > > > > > > > because it can. And one of the things it gives rise to is > > > > > > > > > > > rationality > > > > > > > > > > > - the ability to understand that yeilds all of science > > > > > > > > > > > including the > > > > > > > > > > > theory of evolution. Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 11:31 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not believe humans have revolved from apes of any > > > > > > > > > > > > kind. However, we have evolved. As the earth was formed > > > > > > > > > > > > and has changes throughout the many years, humans have > > > > > > > > > > > > had to evolve in order to survive earth's different > > > > > > > > > > > > climits , etc. Any other wonderful, highly intelligent > > > > > > > > > > > > (ha) humans agree with this conclusion? I believe there > > > > > > > > > > > > is a God. BUT, that doesn't mean there could not have > > > > > > > > > > > > been a big bang, or any other way the earth was formed > > > > > > > > > > > > (as many like to subscribe to.) It does, however, mean > > > > > > > > > > > > that "GOD" could have formed the earth in anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Science, evolution and the God theory can still all go > > > > > > > > > > > > together. One must not believe only one or the other, > > > > > > > > > > > > as in Science or God. What do you think?- Hide quoted > > > > > > > > > > > > text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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