Hi deripsni, On Aug 1, 9:41 am, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > No it doesn't, but I am patient ;-] > You may have to be patient for a long time if you want me to explain you my views, because I have to put together my notes first in a way that they make sense to the reader, and then I have to find a way how to make a link, so that I can post this link to you.
May I ask you a personal question? Are you a teacher, a professor or a priest I am wondering? If you care to answer it or not may not matter. My regards Manfraco > On Jul 31, 6:24 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi deripsni! > > > There are times in people lives when things seem to happen for a > > reason, or perhaps things happen and then we think that they have > > happened for a reason. > > Anyhow there are things that have happened to me which make me believe > > that I have to do something about it, and one of those things has been > > so powerful to push me to believe that I must do something about it > > and this is what I call my call. > > One day I am going to share this with you all and then I want to see > > if you thing that I have been brain washed from a preacher. > > For your information: for the last ten years I have been to church no > > more than a dozen times due to family circumstances. > > I hope that this partially answers your questions? > > Manfraco > > > On Jul 31, 9:38 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > LOL, Thanks for the non-answer! ;-] > > > > On Jul 30, 10:26 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi reripsni! > > > > What I have been called to do I will do, if God wants me to do it, it > > > > is going to take me a long time but I’ll get there somehow. > > > > Anyhow thanks for replying to my post deripsni > > > > My regards > > > > Manfraco > > > > > On Jul 30, 8:11 pm, deripsni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > What have you been called to do? I'd like to suggest that instead of > > > > > "looking for God outside the box", that you simply look inside > > > > > yourself and not at what others have done. Formal education will not > > > > > help you find "God". I think you should rename your "higher call" to > > > > > "inner call". Personally I have learned more about "God" with eyes > > > > > shut than from years of living under the roof of a preacher man and > > > > > going to church 5 times a week. The words of others, if not repeated > > > > > from what they have heard, will simply be their own reflection of > > > > > events that happened to them during meditation or some other form of > > > > > internalization or introspection. > > > > > > On Jul 30, 1:01 am, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Molly! > > > > > > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post and your explanations > > > > > > are spot on. > > > > > > I can see now that again I have not expressed myself clearly, > > > > > > because > > > > > > some of you think that I am bitter towards God, but I am not > > > > > > because I > > > > > > have already heard the call as you put it, in fact I post here just > > > > > > because I want to find a way on how can I do what my call wants me > > > > > > to > > > > > > do. > > > > > > I want to look for God outside the box of the existing religious > > > > > > beliefs, and I know that this is not going to be easy for me as I am > > > > > > low in formal education, but then I look at what the higher educated > > > > > > people have done till now and I wonder whether they are going to do > > > > > > anything to fix things, as I see they need to be fixed, so here I am > > > > > > to start following my higher call and see if I can get anywhere with > > > > > > my limited writing skills. > > > > > > > So to the phrase, let those with ears hear, I would like to add, let > > > > > > those with minds think what needs to be done. > > > > > > I hope that this explanation may also be an answer to the rest of > > > > > > the > > > > > > group. > > > > > > My regards to you all > > > > > > Manfraco. > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree with your picture of God, Manfranco. I think he is the > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > force within us and around us, infinitely. And I think that this > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > where it all begins with each religion, and then individuals take > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > and make it more and more different and complex to fit the needs > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > their culture. In regard to God pleasing, my opinion is that the > > > > > > > expression of God is love, in all forms. > > > > > > > > This God within us is "a respecter of no man," and to me what this > > > > > > > biblical phrase means is that he takes us at our exact word and > > > > > > > intent. Because we are human, we are not always operating from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > God within us or our highest self, but sometimes from our finite > > > > > > > instinctual or egotistical natures. If we are feeling fear > > > > > > > because we > > > > > > > think we don't have enough then God will give this to us, not > > > > > > > enough. > > > > > > > If we are feeling hate because "others" have more than we do or > > > > > > > do not > > > > > > > recognize us for the great people we think we are, then God gives > > > > > > > us > > > > > > > more to hate. > > > > > > > > His love gives us what we feel and think, but gives us more - a > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > calling. Within the hate and fear that we have drawn into our > > > > > > > experience with thoughts and feelings of hate and fear, there will > > > > > > > always be a higher calling from God toward love. If we have the > > > > > > > wisdom to hear the call, we can move out of our smaller selves and > > > > > > > into our higher calling. Let those with ears hear. > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 7:29 pm, Manfraco Frank the Elder <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody: > > > > > > > > Allow me to say what I think about God > > > > > > > > > I believe that there is a god life force in the universe, which > > > > > > > > somehow rules over everything in the universe. This life force > > > > > > > > is what > > > > > > > > all religious people are talking about and while they claim and > > > > > > > > state > > > > > > > > that they know everything about God, they really know very > > > > > > > > little > > > > > > > > about him/her/it. > > > > > > > > For me: > > > > > > > > (1) God may even be the whole universe, so we live within > > > > > > > > God and we > > > > > > > > are part of God life force. > > > > > > > > (2) God may just be all the energies in the universe that > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > crystallized with time and in the end became just like an > > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > > entity capable of doing God’s things, like giving life to every > > > > > > > > living > > > > > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > (3) For God to exist, God ought to be willing to please > > > > > > > > every living > > > > > > > > thing, if God is going to exist within our minds, otherwise we > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > forget about God and this immense god life force will be for us > > > > > > > > nothing. > > > > > > > > (4) What do you think? I hope I don’t upset many people > > > > > > > > with these > > > > > > > > statements. > > > > > > > > (5) Greetings to you all, Manfraco. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 25, 5:56 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how much we have evolved, but I know we have > > > > > > > > > adapted. > > > > > > > > > Our inventiveness makes sure of it. > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 3:16 pm, retiredjim34 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Lotro - If by "God" you mean the god of the bible, then I > > > > > > > > > > disagree. > > > > > > > > > > Why? First, I view the bible as just a collection of > > > > > > > > > > campfire stories. > > > > > > > > > > Second, the god of the bible is awful - for example, he (or > > > > > > > > > > she) told > > > > > > > > > > Abraham to take his kid out back and kill him, and to win a > > > > > > > > > > bet put > > > > > > > > > > Job through the agonies of the damned, and put his "only > > > > > > > > > > begotten son" > > > > > > > > > > here to die a death of prolonged torture. What rational > > > > > > > > > > person would > > > > > > > > > > choose to believe in such a "God?" Not me. But I do believe > > > > > > > > > > there is a > > > > > > > > > > spirit that pervades all and that gives rise to all, maybe > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > because it can. And one of the things it gives rise to is > > > > > > > > > > rationality > > > > > > > > > > - the ability to understand that yeilds all of science > > > > > > > > > > including the > > > > > > > > > > theory of evolution. Jim > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 23, 11:31 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not believe humans have revolved from apes of any > > > > > > > > > > > kind. However, we have evolved. As the earth was formed > > > > > > > > > > > and has changes throughout the many years, humans have > > > > > > > > > > > had to evolve in order to survive earth's different > > > > > > > > > > > climits , etc. Any other wonderful, highly intelligent > > > > > > > > > > > (ha) humans agree with this conclusion? I believe there > > > > > > > > > > > is a God. BUT, that doesn't mean there could not have > > > > > > > > > > > been a big bang, or any other way the earth was formed > > > > > > > > > > > (as many like to subscribe to.) It does, however, mean > > > > > > > > > > > that "GOD" could have formed the earth in anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > Science, evolution and the God theory can still all go > > > > > > > > > > > together. 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