I've been trying to pop in, but with moving,  you know how it goes. :)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:03 PM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Chris actually got this round going back on Aug 2, 1:11 pm with his
> series of one-liners but I'd like to see the both of you in this as
> well.
>
> Nice summary Francis.  Yes, I can see we are both arguing along very
> similar lines and aiming at the same goal.  But I'd like to see you
> and Chris get into the fray as well.  The more voices the more stable
> and productive the discussion would be.  After all, we each know each
> other well enough to assess each others words fairly well.
>
> /e
>
> On Aug 3, 9:23 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Now this is what I call a discussion, Vam and gruff! (BB47 and
> > deripsni could both learn from you :-))
> >
> > Maybe it's because the three of us have been around here for a while
> > that I can really appreciate what both of you are saying, because I
> > know something about the way the two of you think about a lot of
> > things. Actually, I see you both arguing along similar lines; Vam has
> > a professional background in systems analysis and quality management
> > and has a lot of experience in the practical work of building, using
> > and changing systems, while keeping his gaze frimly fixed on the goals
> > (QM as it should be be, but, in my experience, so seldom is); gruff as
> > someone who sees people/societies trying stuff, getting into messes,
> > starting over and, somehow, sometimes, getting it a bit more right the
> > next time (that old 51%/49% optimistic analogy that I often doubt but
> > always admire).
> >
> > So ... I think I'll stay out of this for a while and hope you both
> > carry on!
> >
> > Francis
>
>  >
>

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