.........because these parents chose alternative medicine first it is easy to blame death on the choice. <<MB
Alternative "medicine"? They chose prayer "not" medicine. The parents obviously neglected the child for quite sometime which led to the severity of the illness which they tried to remedy with hocu pocus. If someone is bleeding badly from a stab wound, would you think that prayer might cause the bleeding to stop? Would you keep telling the person, "Just relax, I'm sure praying is going to work"? When the person finally bleeds to death do you just say "well it was probably time to die anyway so nothing really would have worked"? I can see using the power of the mind for some ailments that are not life threatening because of the risk factor. On Aug 7, 7:14 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree that, especially in the case of a child, the all avenues > available to us that promote life and healing should be pursued > immediately. What those are is very tricky and the fact is, because > these parents chose alternative medicine first it is easy to blame > death on the choice. Had they chose modern medicine and death was the > result there would not have been the blame because we are locked into > the model of modern medicine. I am not judging this or espousing one > over the other, just noting what I see. > > Here is what I think. If you are seeing an MD that is writing you a > prescription every time you go to him and not spending time talking to > you about your heath, you need to find and MD who will teach you how > to take care of yourself and family in times of minor illness and > injury and when it is imperative that you see the doctor or go for > emergency care. The current medical model gives doctors about ten > minutes with a patient on their schedule and I think we have fallen > away from the idea that doctors are agents and teachers for healing. > > Likewise, if you are seeing an alternative medical practitioner that > tells you they can heal you in twenty visits and will set up a payment > plan for you RUN. Find a practitioner who can teach you the nuances > of self healing and peak vitality maintenance. Any practitioner who > tells you that they are doing the healing for you and is not teaching > you anything should be avoided, and probably falls within the juju > realm that Ian opposes. > > My opinion is, that no matter who we see to help us maintain health, > we ourselves are the agent for health and healing. Our doctors take > us to that place that it can happen, and whether we believe that it is > happening because of them or because of us, the point is we believe it > and so it happens. A good doctor will eventually teach us that we are > self healing, self intelligent systems, and they our teachers. > > On Aug 7, 7:53 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > That may be, but is no reason for not doing everything in our power to > > save her. The way to the doctor should have been the first. > > > On Aug 7, 4:27 pm, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > maybe it was just her time to go, in which case, nothing could have > > > saved her. > > > > On Aug 7, 6:15 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I get your point and would agree that the mind is a very powerful > > > > tool. If I had to go with a faith healing it would only be on my own > > > > accord, internally within my own mind. I can't buy into a group of > > > > people standing around in hopes that someone is going to get healed. > > > > Perhaps the *girl who died, and if she had a powerful enough mind, > > > > which she most likely didn't at her age, could have had some affect on > > > > her health. But for the parents to think that "they" were going to > > > > heal her through prayer was a ridiculous notion. I think the parents > > > > received justice. It is one thing when medical treatment is not > > > > available to resort to whatever means possible but in this case the > > > > parents used the girl as an experiment, one which failed miserably. > > > > > *http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/02/us-daughter-pray-death > > > > > On Aug 6, 6:55 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > yeah..guess you are rite...i think faith healing has something to do > > > > > with the psychology of the person trying it......maybe they believe > > > > > that they are being cured.... and so the mind works acordingly...it > > > > > is from the brain that the feeling of pain originates..hope you get my > > > > > point > > > > > > On Aug 4, 9:57 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't totally doubt that some form of healing may take place when > > > > > > applying other non-scientific methods but "why" the healing is > > > > > > taking > > > > > > place is questionable especially when considering placebo studies. > > > > > > The question I have is this, if the other methods work, prayer, > > > > > > faith > > > > > > or hands on, then why aren't we all using them? When we have a > > > > > > fever > > > > > > or a headache, we take medicine and it works time and time again for > > > > > > millions of people, it is "Consistent". > > > > > > I had a bad sinus infection in the spring and didn't even think of > > > > > > going to my neighbor for some prayer session. I went to the doctor, > > > > > > he gave me a powerful antibiotic and within a few hours the > > > > > > excruciating pain subsided. > > > > > > People have been praying for thousands of years with a paltry > > > > > > success > > > > > > rate while medicine has been around for thousands of years with a > > > > > > proven and consistent success rate. Why waste time with > > > > > > non-science > > > > > > when science works? > > > > > > Isn't the answer clear?- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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