On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:02 AM, [email protected]<[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes there is a lot to be said for self motivation. I have in the past > performed volutary work, people do the same now, and charites do > exist. > As I say why would people do this, why for the betterment of mankind > obviously.
I disagree. Most of the people I know that participate in 'habitat for humanity' type endeavors do it because they like the people they traveled and worked with. It's basically a worcation. Or a workoliday for the Europeans. They learn how to lay tile and do some roofing repairs and enjoy showing smart people how to put in dry wall. There is some satisfaction teaching others something and really it's so easy you see the benefits of your efforts right away. Very gratifying. For a week. I don't see anyone working dirty jobs like this day in day out for free. The same people that do these worcations are the same people that will hire illegal day laborers to do work in their own homes because they are too busy making real money to mess with it. So what I'm saying is their motivation isn't the 'betterment of mankind' but actually a cheap vacation with good friends. Food and lodging are basically gratis on trips like this. Can you see my side on this Lee? Wait a sec... I have had an epiphany. I have seen the light *cue choral group Eb sustained* and am now ready to improve mankind. I have discovered a way to remove the evil from society. It's so easy. Just give me your bank account and routing numbers and I will, at no cost to you, remove all your money. If you have direct deposit, don't fret. i will repeat this service at the end of every month to make sure you have no evil monetary worries. I am especially eager to help out JK Rowling. Who still hasn't called me. dj > > Again on a serious note, I have admited that I have no idea how to > initiate such a scheme, nor what problems the transitory period would > bring, and yes it is highly idealogical of me, but I have not said it > is not so, and yes despite all evidance to the contrary I still yearn > for world peace. > > On 26 Aug, 16:51, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >> There's a lot to be said for self-motivation, I think. One of the >> reasons centrally organised/non-profit works (better) in the social >> area is that people working there can actually see needs and work on >> them (nurses, teachers, police officers). In an ideal world, of course >> - if their idealism and positive motivation isn't gradually crushed by >> bureaucracies, idiotic rules, cost-cuts and being treated with >> disrespect and contempt! And cowed into inaction by the exigencies of >> the career ladder and an ever-more-prevalent attitude of cover-your- >> ass ... >> >> Francis >> >> On 26 Aug., 17:13, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > These are exactly the points which tend to become problematic in state run >> > manufacturing. Not all of them, mind you, but a number of them. Anyone >> > drive >> > a Volga lately? There are certain types of "Guaranteed labor/pay" scenarios >> > which seem to work, and certain types which don't. As someone who fully >> > supports socialized medicine and education, I'd really like to know what >> > the >> > magic formula is that guarantees QUALITY in such an endeavor. >> >> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:19 AM, BB47 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > On Aug 26, 5:54 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > > > Work is it, should it be a right? >> >> > > I notice that "quality" of work has not even been mentioned. As if the >> > > talents, skills, and strengths are are all equal. So, would the >> > > employer be getting whoever is next in line? (que?) >> >> > > I bet the employers will be thrilled with this idea. >> >> > > > I think another solution and a better one to my mind is based around >> > > > the whole concept of money. Lets just get rid of it! It causes too >> > > > many problems in the world. >> >> > > Lee, if you are going to remove a system, don't you think there is a >> > > requirement to replace it with something else? Please describe how >> > > the world would work without money. >> > > I am interested how that would work. >> >> > > As far as "right to work" doesn't that translate to "I don't have to >> > > work hard ever again" very soon? I mean, you are promised pay for >> > > basically showing up. Can you be fired? (You just show up somewhere >> > > else tomorrow, now you have "rights")- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
