No No Lee it deals with it as a concept of prayer in reality.. it is interesting as it is avoiding
the book is Basic Magick by Phillip Cooper it is working off the esoteric view point You = Belief = Life Energy Life energy is basically the force of creation. It is kind of a fascinating book to read and in a way it is dealing with the concept of effective prayer that works.. Allan On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > > Heh yeah but what kind of magic does it talk about? > > You're basic like for like type where your manipulation of a substance > causes change in a similar, or afiliated substance? > Or perhaps runic, or chanting, danceing, trancing? What? > > On 10 Sep, 12:01, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh ,, Lee it was the title of a book I bought years ago that has a very > > interesting view point on prayer I thought Francis might be interested > in > > reading. > > Allan > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:15 AM, [email protected] < > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ohh what sort of basic magic? > > > > > On 9 Sep, 19:26, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Me to and it does Francis > > > > Next time we see each other remind me to loan you one of my books > called > > > > basic magic,, put some new insights to prayer. > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:16 PM, frantheman < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I'd be storming heaven with continuing rosaries for a successful > > > > > outcome for you Neil - now, if only I could start believing that > > > > > prayer works ... > > > > > > > Francis > > > > > > > On 9 Sep., 16:09, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I got news of an interview for a job in Dubai today - it's next > > > > > > Monday. The job's being run by my old university. Good pay, > free > > > > > > accommodation and guaranteed sun and sobriety - an excellent > retreat > > > > > > to finish my books as long as the air conditioning holds out! > I'll > > > be > > > > > > out in the sticks (not that are any) about an hour from the > challenge > > > > > > of cold lager and an eon from the recession. Ahmadenadinejad > will be > > > > > > within grenade tossing distance across the Straights Of Homuz, so > I > > > > > > may adjust my view of the 6th Fleet and have to stop calling > > > Americans > > > > > > my colonial cousins! You may be right that we have a 'special > > > > > > relationship' Orn. One hopes the monks keep chanting until 3 > p.m. > > > > > > 14.9.09 (BST). The work will probably encompass India too. > Fingers > > > > > > crossed, touching the wood, the scientist in me is shouting! > > > > > > > > On 9 Sep, 12:13, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 8 Sep, 18:55, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Words from those wiser than I: > > > > > > > > > > "Listening not to me but to the LOGOS it is wise to agree > that > > > all > > > > > > > > things are one." - Heraclitus (ca. 535–475 BCE): > > > > > > > > > > "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act > responsibly, > > > while > > > > > > > > bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato > > > > > > > > > > "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its > > > opponents > > > > > > > > and making them see the light, but rather because its > opponents > > > > > > > > eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is > familiar > > > with > > > > > > > > it." - Max Planck > > > > > > > > > > "The most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is > the > > > > > > > > sensation of the mystical. He to whom this emotion is a > stranger, > > > who > > > > > > > > can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as > dead. > > > To > > > > > > > > know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, > manifesting > > > > > itself > > > > > > > > as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our > dull > > > > > > > > faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this > > > > > > > > knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religion." > - > > > Albert > > > > > > > > Einstein > > > > > > > > > Just thought I'd add in another Einstein quote, here: "Science > > > without > > > > > > > religion is lame; religion without science is blind." > > > > > > > > > > “There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which > is > > > > > crazy.” > > > > > > > > Henry Miller > > > > > > > > > > "Stuff happens." - Donald H. Rumsfeld > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 8, 10:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bill - things have been tough enough for me to > really > > > > > > > > > appreciate the other 'odd balls' in here as a beacon of > hope. > > > As a > > > > > > > > > young boy I felt much the same about the USA (really), > > > confusing it > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > the beacon city on the hill. I thought you guys were so > > > democratic > > > > > > > > > you wouldn't even get patriotic about sport! One lives and > > > learns! > > > > > > > > > Possibly the only thing I can claim to have been really > good at > > > is > > > > > > > > > 'bad singing'. There has been a similar figure in my life > - > > > > > Howard, > > > > > > > > > an old-style socialist who did sing-song nights at a pub I > used > > > to > > > > > > > > > use. > > > > > > > > > Our grandson has just started secondary school and was so > > > impressed > > > > > > > > > with his first day he wanted to go back! His Catholic > primary > > > > > school > > > > > > > > > was about as good as we can manage. In the UK (with some > > > > > reservations > > > > > > > > > about prep schools), we seem to manage 'equality' quite > well to > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > point and keep things personal and neighbourly enough. > Things > > > go > > > > > sour > > > > > > > > > after this point and I do conclude that the suppression of > > > > > > > > > spirituality and communality after this stage is the key. > I'm > > > not > > > > > > > > > sure I ever coped with this and the discovery of the way of > the > > > > > > > > > world. I've been unrooted all my adult life and even now > miss > > > the > > > > > > > > > comradeship of disciplined service that replaced this, even > > > though > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > know the experience was traumatic - the trauma being very > much > > > post > > > > > > > > > the experience time itself. There is much we could be > building > > > on > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > my sense of this is almost marxist in terms of access to > and > > > > > control > > > > > > > > > of the means of production - but I am only materialist in > > > believing > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > this as a means to spiritual being. Fromm put this as 'to > have > > > or > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > be' - there are plenty of arguments, but it often seems > little > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > other than as a missionary or martyr - I'll stop before > terms > > > like > > > > > > > > > 'strategic spirituality' start to come out of my management > > > speak > > > > > > > > > learning! > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Sep, 01:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I couldn’t stop thinking of Neil (and a few others here) > > > while > > > > > > > > > > listening to this wonderful story teller/man. No matter > ones > > > > > political > > > > > > > > > > views, my guess is that we all would love to have had him > as > > > a > > > > > > > > > > neighbor and a friend. > > > > > > > > > > > > (It is a fairly long show…watch it when you have the > time.) > > > > > > > > http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/7/the_golden_voice_of_the_great-Hi. > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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