Yes I agree, energy exists and potential energy exists. In our universe all of that is true, but we are speaking of the 'time' before the universe started, so there was no potential, no energy, no matter, only spirt in the 'form' of God.
This is fine for the likes of you and I Pat, what though of the other members here that do not belive in such a being? Perhaps then your first assumption should have been, God is? Ahh then of course some of us here would have called you on that assumption. Okay then I guess I can work on the principle that when you say potential, you mean the 'desire' of God. On 14 Sep, 12:10, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 14 Sep, 11:49, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Now not that I wish this to get bogged down in semantics, but I can't > > help but think that the word potential implies time. > > > So without time pre-existant before the start of the univeres there > > can't really be any potential, can there? > > > Unless you are considering brane theory perhaps? > > Energy exists. Energy can exist in a state of potential. This has > nothing, in particular, to do with time or time passing. Time, as a > dimension, can exist without any movement through it just as, > geometrically, 2-D shapes can occur in a 3-D world without utilising > the third dimension. > > > > > On 14 Sep, 11:18, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 14 Sep, 11:13, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hey Pat, > > > > > I'm having a bit of a problem with postulate 1. > > > > > 'Postulate 1) The universe, as we know it today and including > > > > all that has come before, must have been, at some point, potentially > > > > possible.' > > > > > At which point are we talking about, if time did not start before the > > > > universe did? > > > > Even if that point was 5 seconds ago, the universe, as it is today > > > was, at least, at THAT point, potentially possible. That potentiality > > > can, then, be extended as far back as possible. Remember that, prior > > > to time commencing, all things were potential, including time and its > > > passing.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
